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Hank Kingsley 07-05-2020 04:24 PM

Car/truck buying service
 
I haven't bought a new vehicle in more than 10 years. Looking to buy a GMC truck or similar. Any deals to be had? Invoice plus whatever type of service. Someone has to sell cars, I just don't want to talk to them. Thanks.

BobZ 07-05-2020 04:37 PM

If u own GM now usually get loyalty pricing. GM credit card points. Labor day good time to buy out of dealer stock. I non rev'd out of local area to make the deal. But found/got exactly what I wanted.

bought new in 2017 around this time ended up at $40K from a $55K sticker. Sold the 05 for $10K on craigslist. So it all worked out ok.

Id guess you could strike a pretty good deal all by yourself on new truck with all thats goin on.

freezingflyboy 07-05-2020 04:52 PM

I've never used it but my parents swear by the Costco buying service. I think they've bought 2-3 cars through them over the years.

Buckeyes 07-05-2020 04:52 PM

My neighbor just bought a new GMC truck. Zero % for 84 months.

Hrkdrivr 07-05-2020 04:56 PM

Check hertz.com. They’re unloading a lot of vehicles.

CitationZ06 07-05-2020 05:08 PM

We get supplier pricing. It is a good no haggling price. Search DLnet for discounts. Your code is only good for 90 days. I always go to a dealer and play the game without letting them know I get supplier pricing and a second dealer and play the game with supplier pricing. Sometimes I have beat supplier pricing by 2000 bucks but it is usually a bland no option car. If you want a new body style, or hard to find options; supplier pricing is super easy.

2021 Yukon starts production in a few weeks. It looks good.

TED74 07-05-2020 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Buckeyes (Post 3086646)
My neighbor just bought a new GMC truck. Zero % for 84 months.

Mr. Jones?

hockeypilot44 07-05-2020 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Buckeyes (Post 3086646)
My neighbor just bought a new GMC truck. Zero % for 84 months.

When they do that, they remove other incentives. Could probably get the truck for less money without that 0 percent incentive. Credit union is charging 2.3 percent. I would do the math and see which way is cheaper.

forgot to bid 07-05-2020 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 3086621)
I haven't bought a new vehicle in more than 10 years. Looking to buy a GMC truck or similar. Any deals to be had? Invoice plus whatever type of service. Someone has to sell cars, I just don't want to talk to them. Thanks.

here’s a ford dealership I always use, bought 5 F150s there. I know it’s not gmc.

https://www.akinsford.com/new-cars-w...f_standardbody

right now is -13000 off MSRP. Typically -12k is good, sometimes -15, seen -20 during covid but that was short lived. Deal is you have to have a trade in, if you don’t you lose 1k of the 13. You have to do ford financing at 8% For -2500 of the -13, but switch immediately over to your own favorite bank way less than that.

they’re trying to be volume leader. Move several hundred a month.

surely someone does the same on gmc. But what they do is order popular model of f150, so xlt with crew cab and certain packages, and the hand over the coupons to you.

BobZ 07-05-2020 08:00 PM

Check if ford credit is still writing prepaid interest vehicle loans.

They did that for years and hosed their customers

Hank Kingsley 07-06-2020 02:42 PM

Thanks guys, I did Ford Xplan long time ago. I live GMC country, funny how that works.

forgot to bid 07-07-2020 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 3086723)
Check if ford credit is still writing prepaid interest vehicle loans.

They did that for years and hosed their customers

they switched it. You can get out.

forgot to bid 07-07-2020 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 3087087)
Thanks guys, I did Ford Xplan long time ago. I live GMC country, funny how that works.

but surely somewhere in the country someone at gmc is running to be the volume dealer. Do a unlimited distance search.

the Ford one, xplan wasn’t much off and the local dealer would sell you a 48,500 truck for 48,000. Drive an hour further and got it for 34 without a single negotiation. Just pick your color.

BobZ 07-07-2020 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 3087306)
but surely somewhere in the country someone at gmc is running to be the volume dealer. Do a unlimited distance search.

the Ford one, xplan wasn’t much off and the local dealer would sell you a 48,500 truck for 48,000. Drive an hour further and got it for 34 without a single negotiation. Just pick your color.

Yup. Exactly.

block30 07-07-2020 07:34 AM

Are you guys just buying new? I have always gotten used cars. Any hot tips for the used marlet?

hockeypilot44 07-07-2020 07:38 AM

I think the x-plan is 1 percent under factory wholesale price (invoice). I just bought a new Jeep truck recently that I custom ordered. I negotiated 6 percent under invoice plus the current incentive which was another $2000 off. It ended up being about 15 percent under sticker. Join the forums for whatever truck you plan on buying. You will find good info for what people are paying.

A few years ago, the x-plan was the best price you were going to get on a Raptor. For less demand models, you can do better on your own.

forgot to bid 07-07-2020 07:45 AM

I was talking to a pilot that bought the new corvette mid engine. That was sticker if you were lucky.

and a long wait

Svfr 07-07-2020 07:50 AM

Negotiate over email and don't actually set foot in the dealership until all the negotiations are over. When I bought a car last year I emailed about 5 dealerships that had exactly what I wanted and got a price. I then took the cheapest one and emailed their price to another dealer who of course beat it, did the same one or two more times until sending the lowest offer to the dealer who had originally been the cheapest. I ended up getting a new Corolla that had a sticker price of 26k for just under 20k with more features than I was originally looking for because it's what he had on the lot.

forgot to bid 07-07-2020 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 3087344)
Are you guys just buying new? I have always gotten used cars. Any hot tips for the used marlet?

press the y button

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forgot to bid 07-07-2020 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Svfr (Post 3087354)
Negotiate over email and don't actually set foot in the dealership until all the negotiations are over. When I bought a car last year I emailed about 5 dealerships that had exactly what I wanted and got a price. I then took the cheapest one and emailed their price to another dealer who of course beat it, did the same one or two more times until sending the lowest offer to the dealer who had originally been the cheapest. I ended up getting a new Corolla that had a sticker price of 26k for just under 20k with more features than I was originally looking for because it's what he had on the lot.

so according to the news car dealers are trying to get back away from virtual buying. They want you in their store now post covid.

gloopy 07-07-2020 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 3087359)
so according to the news car dealers are trying to get back away from virtual buying. They want you in their store now post covid.

There won't be a "post Covid" until at least 11-04-2020.

UnbeatenPath 07-07-2020 08:27 AM

I know it's probably not what you want to do, but I leased a 2020 Tundra for 250/month but only for 10,000 miles/year. It's not my daily deiver, I really got it for Lowes trips while we're remodeling our house and towing my motorcycles to the race track. I'm a Ramsey guy, but the deal was too good. Basically if I buy it out after the lease is up I'm only down about $1000. I originally was looking for a Sierra 1500, but in the whole COVID era I didnt want to take on a $700-900 payment in case I dont make the furlough cut. There are screaming deals out there if you can find them.

svfr had some great advice on the last page for buying

Gunfighter 07-07-2020 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 3087344)
Are you guys just buying new? I have always gotten used cars. Any hot tips for the used marlet?

Iron Planet was a good place a couple months ago for a work truck. Heavy emphasis on work. I haven't checked lately. It's also a good place to get a backhoe for anyone looking to dig ditches after furlough or early retirement.

Planetrain 07-07-2020 10:10 AM

Two lesser known ford x-plan benefits: dealer doc fee capped at $100, factory rebates are increased.

Big E 757 07-07-2020 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Svfr (Post 3087354)
Negotiate over email and don't actually set foot in the dealership until all the negotiations are over. When I bought a car last year I emailed about 5 dealerships that had exactly what I wanted and got a price. I then took the cheapest one and emailed their price to another dealer who of course beat it, did the same one or two more times until sending the lowest offer to the dealer who had originally been the cheapest. I ended up getting a new Corolla that had a sticker price of 26k for just under 20k with more features than I was originally looking for because it's what he had on the lot.


I know someone who did this when buying a used Jeep Wrangler. My worry would be agreeing to a price before seeing it, and then getting there and finding the thing is a little more beat up than you expected. With new, there is less of a risk, but with used, you don’t really know what you’re getting unless you are actually there with the vehicle.

I’ve only bought one new car in my life (for the wife) and it was the worst car we have ever owned. We bought her a Jeep Compass in 2006-2007, the first year they made it. What a hunk of junk. Once we put new tires on it, it drove a lot better but was still uncomfortable to drive.

I sold cars during the post 9/11 furlough to get sales experience to get a job as a mortgage broker, and the most money I ever made on a new car was from a lease deal from someone who got a GM supplier discount. It was also the easiest because the invoice has the GM employee discount price and the GM supplier price so the price was set, no negotiating. I’m a little suspicious of supplier pricing. I think you can do better negotiating on your own.

OverspeedCowboy 07-07-2020 02:46 PM

https://www.laurabuickgmc.com/

flyallnite 07-07-2020 04:58 PM

I just want on the DL perks site, signed up for the GM Supplier Discount, and went to the website looking at trucks. There is no difference in the price I can find on the general public website. The Supplier price is what every dealer is knocking off MSRP as a dealer discount. So I don't see any benefit whatsoever to that program. For example, a GMC Sierra 3500 is reduced about 8000 off MSRP. That's 4K of dealer incentive and 4000 cash back. After taxes, that's close to 80K out the door.

Turbosina 07-07-2020 07:44 PM

It's all about looking for new cars that have been sitting on the dealer lot for a while. Like for example right now I bet you could get some smoking deals on a never-titled 2019 model.

Last year I did just that. Got 20% off MSRP on a gorgeous,c very low volume car with 15 miles on it, never titled. It had been sitting on the dealer lot for almost a year. Got them to throw in an oil and brake fluid change as well. And this was not a brand you'd normally associate with discounts. (The car was built in Zuffenhausen, Germany and wears its engine proudly in the middle, for you car nuts out there...)

Oh, and my custom plate? XCD MMO :) (to go along with the other one, which is XCD VNE)...

madmax757 07-07-2020 08:52 PM

Go in find the truck you want mid month. Start negotiating, but have someone call you and say you have to go fly and leave. Call on last day of month when dealer needs to meet sales quota and go in a few hours before they close. Tell them what you will pay and you want 0 financing.

Also - I would NEVER buy a pre owned rental car. When I flew corporate I would fly with a younger dude that took driving lessons. He showed me Rockford slides, power brake burnouts and small jumps. I didn’t do it but it was kinda fun.

Planetrain 07-07-2020 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 3087753)
It's all about looking for new cars that have been sitting on the dealer lot for a while. Like for example right now I bet you could get some smoking deals on a never-titled 2019 model.

Last year I did just that. Got 20% off MSRP on a gorgeous,c very low volume car with 15 miles on it, never titled. It had been sitting on the dealer lot for almost a year. Got them to throw in an oil and brake fluid change as well. And this was not a brand you'd normally associate with discounts. (The car was built in Zuffenhausen, Germany and wears its engine proudly in the middle, for you car nuts out there...)

Oh, and my custom plate? XCD MMO :) (to go along with the other one, which is XCD VNE)...

well it’s not a Miata

ShyGuy 07-08-2020 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 3086621)
I haven't bought a new vehicle in more than 10 years. Looking to buy a GMC truck or similar. Any deals to be had? Invoice plus whatever type of service. Someone has to sell cars, I just don't want to talk to them. Thanks.


a GMC truck? What kind of Miata is that :confused:

hyflyre 07-08-2020 02:43 AM

I have used the Ford supplier plan 4 times. All with good results. No issue paying the vehicles off early. Got 8k off my F-150, and doc fees were $100. That saved another $1900. This was on a 2015 so your YMMV.


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Triggs 07-12-2020 05:01 PM

Google Laura GMC. They seem to have the best prices, especially on HD's

JohnDeere 07-12-2020 05:16 PM

I don't care what you buy
 
Just know that people who work on these beasts refer to GM as "General Mess". YMMV.

ipdanno 07-13-2020 06:06 PM

Costco Plan
 
A family member had worked at Chevy and Kia dealerships, and told me that hands down, the Costco Buying Program beat every other buying program, to include USAA. He did not have experience with airline-specific incentive programs.

We chose that path, in the Chicagoland area. The eligible dealership had specific program-certified sales reps. There was a binder on the shelf with the sales price for the various trim levels of the preferred vehicle. And it displayed the Costco discount for each option. I was impressed. We leveraged a year-prior (untitled) model for dealer incentives, and chose the brand-specific finance option for further interest rate incentives. Overall, I am pleased with the experience of buying that ‘new’ vehicle.

Mind you, I only get used vehicles for the airport car, and those are vehicles that Jake and Elwood would find acceptable, as long as you fix the lighter!

theUpsideDown 07-13-2020 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by hyflyre (Post 3087814)
I have used the Ford supplier plan 4 times. All with good results. No issue paying the vehicles off early. Got 8k off my F-150, and doc fees were $100. That saved another $1900. This was on a 2015 so your YMMV.


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Definately a 150 fan. Great truck.

JamesNoBrakes 07-13-2020 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by ipdanno (Post 3091340)
A family member had worked at Chevy and Kia dealerships, and told me that hands down, the Costco Buying Program beat every other buying program, to include USAA. He did not have experience with airline-specific incentive programs.

We chose that path, in the Chicagoland area. The eligible dealership had specific program-certified sales reps. There was a binder on the shelf with the sales price for the various trim levels of the preferred vehicle. And it displayed the Costco discount for each option. I was impressed. We leveraged a year-prior (untitled) model for dealer incentives, and chose the brand-specific finance option for further interest rate incentives. Overall, I am pleased with the experience of buying that ‘new’ vehicle.

Mind you, I only get used vehicles for the airport car, and those are vehicles that Jake and Elwood would find acceptable, as long as you fix the lighter!

It depends. Many people are happy to buy a vehicle off the lot. If that's the case, there's often more negotiation possible. At some point, the dealer needs to move it. Keep in mind though, the dealer ordered the car because they THOUGHT they could move it, so they aren't impressed by someone coming in and low-balling it if they think they can keep it for longer and sell it at a more advantageous price. If you want very specific features, they can often be hard to come by at at a dealership, in that you have to order the vehicle. Example, you want a manual transmission, maybe on a sporty car or full on sports-car, well the dealerships know they can't move those and most of the damn public can't even test-drive it, so it doesn't make any sense to stock on on stuff that they know they'll have a hard time moving. Just order some more big AT 4-door trucks and they'll keep the soccer moms and husbands happy. So if you are going this route, a program like Costco makes a lot of sense, you can negotiate the price, often save a little off of MSRP, but not get screwed over because you are "ordering". When you are ordering, you are more at the dealer's mercy, because they know there is something that you want and no matter where you go, you are going to have to order it. They love to tack on "dealer markups" and other BS. I've used Costco...and I've not used Costco. It just depends on the circumstances. Most people are happy taking a car off the lot, which usually allows ample room for negotiation. For the smaller percentage that want's something specific, the programs like Costco make a lot of sense.

BobZ 07-14-2020 08:36 AM

Id wait for the new miata truck. Or maybe the one coming from that german sounding nameplate.

Judge Smails 07-14-2020 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by JohnDeere (Post 3090673)
Just know that people who work on these beasts refer to GM as "General Mess". YMMV.

I worked for a GMC dealer for years in a previous life. Never heard that one. I’ve also owned multiple GM trucks and they’ve never given me a problem. Statistically, (this one may trigger some people) they last longer and have better reliability than Ford trucks too.

BobZ 07-14-2020 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3091660)
I worked for a GMC dealer for years in a previous life. Never heard that one. I’ve also owned multiple GM trucks and they’ve never given me a problem. Statistically, (this one may trigger some people) they last longer and have better reliability than Ford trucks too.

Also generally better resale numbers than blue oval and mopar trucks.

But most trucks are pretty reliable today only needing usual PM and consumables replaced. So buy what you like and what offers the best deal.


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