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GucciBoy 10-27-2020 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Jodaaddy (Post 3150576)
Does checking the reinstatement box make that your highest bid priority by default? Or can you still bid another category as your first choice, followed by reinstatement to your old category second?


Your award will be based on your preferences in order. Checking the reinstatement box just gives you priority over senior AEs when returning to your previous category. If you want to return to your previous category, list it as preference #1 and check the reinstatement box.


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 3150559)
I have a question that I saw discussed last AE, but I can’t remember the answer.



I was displaced on the MOAD. I am converting to my new category in November and will have reinstatement rights until May. If I AE into another category on this AE, do I lose my reinstatement rights into my original category because of my seat lock or is the seat lock waived for a reinstatement?



If you are awarded an AE, you lose your reinstatement rights on subsequent bids.

igotgummed 10-27-2020 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by beis77 (Post 3150585)
I believe checking the box makes it the highest priority, but I’m not certain of that.

it does NOT make it your highest priority. You put your reinstatement category in your preference order, the checked box means you desire to be reinstated there if you don’t get one of the bids you put above it.

1) dream bid
2) dream bid
3) dream bid
4) reinstatement category
5) least amount of suck bid
6) least amount of suck bid

beis77 10-27-2020 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by igotgummed (Post 3150591)
it does NOT make it your highest priority. You put your reinstatement category in your preference order, the checked box means you desire to be reinstated there if you don’t get one of the bids you put above it.

1) dream bid
2) dream bid
3) dream bid
4) reinstatement category
5) least amount of suck bid
6) least amount of suck bid

Good to know, thanks

MJP27 10-27-2020 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 3150589)
Your award will be based on your preferences in order. Checking the reinstatement box just gives you priority over senior AEs when returning to your previous category. If you want to return to your previous category, list it as preference #1 and check the reinstatement box.





If you are awarded an AE, you lose your reinstatement rights on subsequent bids.

Thanks, that’s what I figured

bugman61 10-27-2020 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 3150589)
If you are awarded an AE, you lose your reinstatement rights on subsequent bids.

You keep your reinstatement rights for future bids until the 6 month timeline runs out.

GucciBoy 10-27-2020 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by bugman61 (Post 3150732)
You keep your reinstatement rights for future bids until the 6 month timeline runs out.


According to the PWA, this is only true as long as you “hold an MD.” As soon as you bid to another position via an AE, you are no longer considered displaced. If I’m wrong about this, please let me know the appropriate section of the PWA.

bugman61 10-27-2020 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 3150761)
According to the PWA, this is only true as long as you “hold an MD.” As soon as you bid to another position via an AE, you are no longer considered displaced. If I’m wrong about this, please let me know the appropriate section of the PWA.

I thought that was the case as well, but during the last bid I spoke with ALPA. They said that you keep your reinstatement rights and that the company agrees with this interpretation.

GucciBoy 10-27-2020 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by bugman61 (Post 3150768)
I thought that was the case as well, but during the last bid I spoke with ALPA. They said that you keep your reinstatement rights and that the company agrees with this interpretation.


I hope that’s true. I’m all for anything that benefits the pilots over the company.

iflysky 10-29-2020 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by igotgummed (Post 3150591)
it does NOT make it your highest priority. You put your reinstatement category in your preference order, the checked box means you desire to be reinstated there if you don’t get one of the bids you put above it.

1) dream bid
2) dream bid
3) dream bid
4) reinstatement category
5) least amount of suck bid
6) least amount of suck bid

Does this also apply to returning UNAs? I’m a bit confused, because I thought that UNAs get what is “leftover” after reinstatements and senior AEs by proffer. So as an UNA will the bid go straight to your reinstatement choice if you tick that reinstatement box?

FL370esq 10-29-2020 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by iflysky (Post 3151701)
Does this also apply to returning UNAs? I’m a bit confused, because I thought that UNAs get what is “left over” after reinstatements and senior AEs by proffer. So as an UNA will the bid go straight to your reinstatement choice if you tick that reinstatement box?

A returning UNA is (presumably) fairly low on the seniority food chain so their "dream bids" (in the example above) may not be honored as those vacancies may already be filled when the AE combobulator gets to the UNA's preferences. However, a UNA can hold reinstatement rights as they were MD'd from some category to become UNA. Therefore, if their previous category still exists (not ATLM88B, NYC717B, etc) and the UNA pilot has requested it, they will be reinstated to their previous category before a more senior pilot will be awarded an AE to that category.


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