My point was not whether or not they withheld their vaccine (like you, I’d need to see evidence) but that either way (assuming for a second that they did) that it would have been released after the election instead of them continuing to hold onto it like another poster said. I thought my last sentence would have clarified that, I guess not

Fair enough. I think that is a rather large assumption without any evidence and even if it was proven, it doesn't move the needle much for me. Pfizer behaves much like any large corporation: follow the money and you will usually find your explanation. But I see your point.

I don’t think it was withheld, I was just explaining a scenario where, if there goal was political, how waiting a couple weeks could not have as much of a downside and either way it would have been released after the election. Again assuming this was true, which we would need to see more evidence IMO.

I heard that the moon landing was faked and Elvis works at hotel bar in Nashville. It's true because I made 60% of it up and the rest I read somewhere sometime.

oh no, it was clear. I was just riffing on it because minds have already been made up

I personally verified a dead person in Michigan got an absentee ballot. Anyone can verify on the Michigan state website. Where do you stand on the legitimacy of the American voting system?

Definitely needs reforming and brought into the 21st century (technology-wise and a strong look at getting rid of the electoral college), but let's be honest...dead people receiving ballots did NOT change the outcome of this election. Especially anymore than it changed the outcome of previous elections.

This is the same government that sent people too much money in stimulus checks then wanted it back. Minor issues happen every single election cycle, but they are never enough to move the needle one way or the other.

Our system, while not perfect (is there such a thing?) is easily one of the best in the world. Meanwhile, we have a sitting president who has been actively trying to undermine it for months (sans evidence) and now dangerously playing with our Republic. That isn't a partisan statement, it's legitimately concerning no matter who has the office.

They should never get rid of the electoral college. Going to strictly popular vote would guarantee downfall of our country. Eventually the have-nots vote to give themselves everything they don't have. When that happens, our country collapses. The electoral college is designed so our nation avoids that downfall.

Looks like the volume of mail-in ballots (technically mail-out ballots) was what affected the count the most, at least after the polls closed.

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