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Nantonaku 05-02-2021 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3229391)
Just like DTW, it's great for a short layover. But I don't want to be stuck literally at the airport there for a long one.

Over the current hotel? I'd rather be at the airport, the current hotel is a long ride to nowhere with nothing around. Downtown DTW is good but the current situation seems unacceptable in my opinion. I bid to avoid DTW trips that don't layover at the airport.

CBreezy 05-02-2021 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3229397)
Over the current hotel? I'd rather be at the airport, the current hotel is a long ride to nowhere with nothing around. Downtown DTW is good but the current situation seems unacceptable in my opinion. I bid to avoid DTW trips that don't layover at the airport.

I was literally just in Denver and there was plenty open and things to do downtown. It's right off the 16th street mall.

DenVa 05-02-2021 10:49 AM

put me down for downtown all the time. Who needs another hotel between a highway and an Applebee’s? Also, most airport hotels, outside of maybe the ones that are attached, have horrible workout rooms and nowhere to run outside.

I always find it funny when people say there is nothing to do downtown. Really? Nothing? Most people just don’t want to walk farther than two blocks. If there isn’t a pint place right across the street, then, there just isn’t anything to do.

I guess I’m crazy though. I actually liked downtown BWI. Fells point was neat or you could cruise around the water. It had a couple nice parks

JamesBond 05-02-2021 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3229337)
Domestically?

Small towns (quick van rides): Downtown layovers are AOK.

Major cities (long van rides): No thanks. Life is too short to spend 1-3 hours of a layover sitting in traffic in a van.

All American cities increasingly look the same anyway. Downtown safety is becoming a thing again. (aka "Murder-apolis". So much for Minnesota Nice.)

Internationally?

Yeah, better go downtown. Why fly international if you're not going to see some of the sights?

Your experience may differ.

Some international airports have adjacent or easily available metro systems.. When we still did SVO I always wanted to try to beat the crew van downtown by taking the metro. I can GUARANTEE you that there are closer hotels to CDG than the downtown layovers and your access is just as good to all the sights. I'm not necessarily an advocate of this, but 3 hours on a bus after an all nighter sucks.

DenVa 05-02-2021 10:53 AM

Double post

crewdawg 05-02-2021 11:04 AM

Idk, the idea has merit. I'd much rather layover in downtown Ann Arbor than downtown Detroit. There are plenty of cities that have awesome little enclaves that are not in the downtown. Probably best to address in a case by case scenario though.

GogglesPisano 05-02-2021 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3229353)
I think the cutoff time between long and short layovers needs to change also. 12 hr layover I don't want to go downtown.. I'm not going to drink or go out usually. I just want to eat, work out, and sleep comfortably. 15+ hrs then maybe I'd rather go downtown. 12hrs isn't enough time imho.

But I'm also an anti-social millennial :D

This times a million. I think there's a "Downtown Mafia" at DALPA that thinks spending what will amount to 10 hours from check-in to checkout at a downtown hotel is worth it because there's some Irish Bar or rib place nearby.

If the layover is less than 13, and it's 30 minutes each way downtown = send me to the airport hotel. There's nothing I can do downtown that I can't do at the airport.

Oh, and 14 for ORD.

JamesBond 05-02-2021 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3229409)
Idk, the idea has merit. I'd much rather layover in downtown Ann Arbor than downtown Detroit. There are plenty of cities that have awesome little enclaves that are not in the downtown. Probably best to address in a case by case scenario though.

A good hotel committee should take care of that. Of course the contract needs to be a little more 'flexible' as well.

DenVa 05-02-2021 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3229409)
Idk, the idea has merit. I'd much rather layover in downtown Ann Arbor than downtown Detroit. There are plenty of cities that have awesome little enclaves that are not in the downtown. Probably best to address in a case by case scenario though.

Don’t we already do this. RDU comes to mind.

And, I agree in principle if the contract language gives the hotel committee teeth. Bc, the problem arises when the Ann Arbor hotel doesn’t want to renew or is too expensive for the company, so they move you to some enclave that isn’t as awesome.

Bergman 05-02-2021 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3229346)
I am referring to domestic flying only..I do like some downtown layovers but the number is getting smaller and smaller. Indy, Boston, Little Rock, Houston, among others are good. Then you have the bad.....Jackson, Buffalo, Albany, Tallahassee, Baltimore, Dayton, Providence, NY, and St Louis, just to name a few. I have found most guys who like the downtown layovers are big beer drinkers. They always say this layover is horrible but I have a hole in the wall bar I like to go too.

I guess layover beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. ALB hotel is great. Plenty of food and bars nearby, awesome greenway to run. Buffalo has a lot of good stuff nearby. Tallahassee is sort of boring but a couple great food places. There’s one hippie place that plays movies outside whilst you drink (Big Lebowski was on last time). STL has ball park village and Cardinals or Blues games, plus good restaurants nearby.

Basically, I disagree that we need to change our downtown layovers. Except JAN. That hotel is awful. But they do have $2 domestic beers so 🤷🏼‍♂️


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