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Bucking Bar 05-26-2021 01:41 PM

Surprised the extra drama wasn't being reported on.

After the recall vote failed, members of the "recall committee" went to the microphone and tried to make a motion to limit discussion to one minute. The Chairman wasn't sure where this was going and stated that there were three other resolutions going forward on enhanced PCS bidding options (real good idea to have block hour limits and other specifics in wild card PCS requests), one on Sabbath-keeping (days off for religious observers) and the company requiring vaccination. Then the recall committee interrupted their own motion maker with a motion to reconsider the recall resolutions.

The to reconsider the vote after many people left was intended to be a dirty trick and the motion to limit discussion was an attempt to keep anyone from complaining about it. The motions were clearly improper (and against the democratic notion of local council meetings). The Council Chairman bounced the decision to ALPA Legal and ultimately to Capt. Bill Couette, Vice President–Administration/Secretary at National who read this question from the perspective of ALPA's Constitution, which does not allow reconsideration of a recall motion after a vote. If the "recall committee" wants a new recall vote they need to get another new set of recalls on some subsequent agenda.

Another newsworthy item is that the chairman of the recall committee, Capt. B B, stated that he has filed a Department of Labor complaint against ALPA because the C44 Chairman blocked him on Facebook. (technically, since the Chairman of the recall committee uses his wife's name on Facebook, the C44 Chair blocked his wife...)

notEnuf 05-26-2021 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3241123)
Surprised the extra drama wasn't being reported on.

After the recall vote failed, members of the "recall committee" went to the microphone and tried to make a motion to limit discussion to one minute. The Chairman wasn't sure where this was going and stated that there were three other resolutions going forward on enhanced PCS bidding options (real good idea to have block hour limits and other specifics in wild card PCS requests), one on Sabbath-keeping (days off for religious observers) and the company requiring vaccination. Then the recall committee interrupted their own motion maker with a motion to reconsider the recall resolutions.

The to reconsider the vote after many people left was intended to be a dirty trick and the motion to limit discussion was an attempt to keep anyone from complaining about it. The motions were clearly improper (and against the democratic notion of local council meetings). The Council Chairman bounced the decision to ALPA Legal and ultimately to Capt. Bill Couette, Vice President–Administration/Secretary at National who read this question from the perspective of ALPA's Constitution, which does not allow reconsideration of a recall motion after a vote. If the "recall committee" wants a new recall vote they need to get another new set of recalls on some subsequent agenda.

Another newsworthy item is that the chairman of the recall committee, Capt. B B, stated that he has filed a Department of Labor complaint against ALPA because the C44 Chairman blocked him on Facebook. (technically, since the Chairman of the recall committee uses his wife's name on Facebook, the C44 Chair blocked his wife...)

I'm on the edge of my seat. Then what? Did Mrs. B attend? Will Zuck be called to testify? Tune in next week... C44 always entertains.

170driver 05-26-2021 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3241132)
I'm on the edge of my seat. Then what? Did Mrs. B attend? Will Zuck be called to testify? Tune in next week... C44 always entertains.



BB sounds like such a joke. It’s like he thrives on high school-esque drama.


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ERflyer 05-26-2021 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3241123)
Surprised the extra drama wasn't being reported on.

After the recall vote failed, members of the "recall committee" went to the microphone and tried to make a motion to limit discussion to one minute. The Chairman wasn't sure where this was going and stated that there were three other resolutions going forward on enhanced PCS bidding options (real good idea to have block hour limits and other specifics in wild card PCS requests), one on Sabbath-keeping (days off for religious observers) and the company requiring vaccination. Then the recall committee interrupted their own motion maker with a motion to reconsider the recall resolutions.

The to reconsider the vote after many people left was intended to be a dirty trick and the motion to limit discussion was an attempt to keep anyone from complaining about it. The motions were clearly improper (and against the democratic notion of local council meetings). The Council Chairman bounced the decision to ALPA Legal and ultimately to Capt. Bill Couette, Vice President–Administration/Secretary at National who read this question from the perspective of ALPA's Constitution, which does not allow reconsideration of a recall motion after a vote. If the "recall committee" wants a new recall vote they need to get another new set of recalls on some subsequent agenda.

Another newsworthy item is that the chairman of the recall committee, Capt. B B, stated that he has filed a Department of Labor complaint against ALPA because the C44 Chairman blocked him on Facebook. (technically, since the Chairman of the recall committee uses his wife's name on Facebook, the C44 Chair blocked his wife...)

At least they didn’t storm the Capitol Building after they lost the vote. The anti-democratic lines of thought are similar however.

boog123 05-26-2021 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3241123)
Surprised the extra drama wasn't being reported on.

After the recall vote failed, members of the "recall committee" went to the microphone and tried to make a motion to limit discussion to one minute. The Chairman wasn't sure where this was going and stated that there were three other resolutions going forward on enhanced PCS bidding options (real good idea to have block hour limits and other specifics in wild card PCS requests), one on Sabbath-keeping (days off for religious observers) and the company requiring vaccination. Then the recall committee interrupted their own motion maker with a motion to reconsider the recall resolutions.

The to reconsider the vote after many people left was intended to be a dirty trick and the motion to limit discussion was an attempt to keep anyone from complaining about it. The motions were clearly improper (and against the democratic notion of local council meetings). The Council Chairman bounced the decision to ALPA Legal and ultimately to Capt. Bill Couette, Vice President–Administration/Secretary at National who read this question from the perspective of ALPA's Constitution, which does not allow reconsideration of a recall motion after a vote. If the "recall committee" wants a new recall vote they need to get another new set of recalls on some subsequent agenda.

Another newsworthy item is that the chairman of the recall committee, Capt. B B, stated that he has filed a Department of Labor complaint against ALPA because the C44 Chairman blocked him on Facebook. (technically, since the Chairman of the recall committee uses his wife's name on Facebook, the C44 Chair blocked his wife...)

Looks like you’ve relegated yourself (or more like told to)the social media town crier. Don’t give a crap about C44 politics but you are so transparent .

CBreezy 05-27-2021 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3241200)
Looks like you’ve relegated yourself (or more like told to)the social media town crier. Don’t give a crap about C44 politics but you are so transparent .

You know this is the C44 recall thread. If you don't want to know about what happened in the C44 recall, maybe don't read the thread?

Reroute 05-29-2021 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3241200)
Don’t give a crap about C44 politics but you are so transparent .

And yet here you are, reading and commenting on a thread dedicated to discussion of the C44 recall,

DWC CAP10 USAF 05-29-2021 09:19 AM

When does the recall of the “recall committee” start? Asking for me....and a friend....and everyone outside of C44

RonRicco 05-29-2021 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3242598)
When does the recall of the “recall committee” start? Asking for me....and a friend....and everyone outside of C44

I am the Chairman of the C44 Recall the Recall Committee Committee. For transparency, we demand every email be released from the “mature contracts” email address so we can pull back the curtain on what is going on with our recall committee. Certainly they would volunteer these emails, or do they only approve of releasing emails to the public that were never meant for their eyes? We would also like to know know if the motion for reconsideration was made in good faith as the maker indicated, or was it a preplanned stunt which would make the speakers explanation less than truthful? If that were the case, are these the people we want representing our next recall? Do we want them in from a large group of pilots making up a less than truthful story to justify their end game next time?

There will be another meeting most likely in August. We need to recall the recall committee now so we can have a successful recall of C44 reps so we can get a group in that will sell everything to get our min balance!

Satire of course.......

hvydvr 05-29-2021 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3240904)
I mean, the next regular vote for the next term is in what, August? I’m sure that’s their next battleground to see who is going to run.

This right here. Understand there's a lot of insider kabuki going on but is there any chance all of this can just be dealt with in August? A recall may have been meaningful sometime last year but now it just seems a little late.


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