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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
(Post 3358623)
My brain hurts but thanks for the response. Certainly some nuanced layers to ARCOS and I can’t be the only one who learned something new. Now if you’ll excuse me there’s some kids I need to yell at to get off my lawn. While I’m at it I’m going to regale them with stories of the good old days when crew scheds would just call me with a green slip in the pre ARCOS past.:D
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Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 3358528)
If that were the case, he would have still been awarded the trip. ARCOS doesn’t loop back until AFTER a batch completes.
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Originally Posted by 3 green
(Post 3358779)
You can call scheduling and take it that way if you are the senior pilot. I also thiink the senior pilot can change his preference during an open window and it will include him in the award results. At least it has happened to me before.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3358790)
Once they pull coverage for the award that is not supposed to happen unless they fail to cover the trip within 30 minutes. They are supposed to pull the coverage again if not covered in 30 minutes.
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Originally Posted by 3 green
(Post 3358816)
When ARCOS first started, once a pilot declined a greenslip, he could not change his request. Didn't we receive an email from ALPA months ago saying this had been changed, and now a pilot could change his request and be considered for a particular greenslip in future attempts(batches) to cover the greenslip?
You are correct. Tunes had the right response above. If you select outside of your response window it will display that way in ARCOS, and it will come back to you after the current batch is given time to respond. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3358556)
You need to go to daily trip coverage and see who got the awards. If it was a guy junior to you call CS and ask for a supervisor. You might also plug the trip into the legality calculator before you call. Strange things can happen with rest legalities on reserve. If you can’t talk to CS turn it into the union. They are about a month out on reviews but you will get paid.
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Originally Posted by 3 green
(Post 3358779)
You can call scheduling and take it that way if you are the senior pilot. I also thiink the senior pilot can change his preference during an open window and it will include him in the award results. At least it has happened to me before.
The only way you are supposed to be able to accept an ARCOS trip is via the app, or the ARCOS VRU #. You can change your preferences all you want during your window, it takes whatever you saved last before your window closed. If a pilot in a previous batch changed their mind after the window closed they would not be awarded the trip unless everyone in the current batch said no. For example batch size of 5. Pilot 2 says no during his window but goes back and changes to yes during the window for pilots 6-10, pilot 7 says yes...pilot 7 gets the trip. The only way pilot 2 gets the trip when they change to a yes outside their offer window is if pilots 6-10 all said no or didnt respond. Make sense? |
Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
(Post 3358623)
My brain hurts but thanks for the response. Certainly some nuanced layers to ARCOS and I can’t be the only one who learned something new. Now if you’ll excuse me there’s some kids I need to yell at to get off my lawn. While I’m at it I’m going to regale them with stories of the good old days when crew scheds would just call me with a green slip in the pre ARCOS past.:D
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 3359276)
Can't you still do that? Yes to acknowledge, no to accept? Then they only call you if it's yours just like they used to.
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Is there any recovery obligation if I accept a reserve GS and it NOOPs?
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