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Originally Posted by immolated
(Post 3978906)
Why do some people still say this? For the past 5-10 years at least during OE it's been taught that the PM does the walkaround as standard. If you're NOT doing it, just speak up so it doesn't get missed.
I know it used to be different but now it comes off as "I'm doing you a favor, champ". Don't really care either way, just a random thought. I tell FOs I'll do the walk around on their legs because the overwhelming majority of captains I flew with absolutely did not do walk arounds. You choosing to interpret that negatively is a you problem. |
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 3978897)
Day 1 leg 1 I tell the FO’s when it’s your leg to fly I’ll get your walk arounds, so you want this one or not otherwise I’ll go outside… I love having the FO do the first leg since it sets the tone for me.
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3978911)
What fleet are you on that most captains are doing the walk around?
I tell FOs I'll do the walk around on their legs because the overwhelming majority of captains I flew with absolutely did not do walk arounds. You choosing to interpret that negatively is a you problem. |
Originally Posted by immolated
(Post 3978906)
Why do some people still say this? For the past 5-10 years at least during OE it's been taught that the PM does the walkaround as standard. If you're NOT doing it, just speak up so it doesn't get missed.
I know it used to be different but now it comes off as "I'm doing you a favor, champ". Don't really care either way, just a random thought. |
Originally Posted by immolated
(Post 3978919)
NB fleet dependent then, 95%+ of captains these days do the PM walkaround without mentioning it.
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Originally Posted by immolated
(Post 3978919)
NB fleet dependent then, 95%+ of captains these days do the PM walkaround without mentioning it.
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 3978920)
Because you work at the only airline that calls it Air Lines and CA’s rarely do a walk around. When I was on CA OE one of my LCA’s said I better not catch you doing a walk around during your first few hundred hours you need to learn how to manage the operation since you’re new to the left seat.
"Hey capt, while you were outside I called ops about our missing catering". Crisis averted. I guess bidding ATL is a choice. |
FO is there to assist the captain. Literally the job description. Walk arounds have long been an unspoken FO job unless stated otherwise.
In 10 years as an FO here, it was quite rare to have a captain do every other walk around (< 5%). Always appreciated, never expected. As a captain, I do plenty of walk arounds in all sorts of weather. There are times though, that there are dispatch/MTC/pax issues that need captain attention. Good FOs see that and do the walk around without being asked. Others need prompting, that’s why it is sometimes verbalized. I was always a fan of the captain flying the first leg. As an FO, you get a good feel of how the trip is going to go. As a captain, you set the tone (hopefully FO not tone deaf). I’ll almost always offer to split ATL landings. Many say they don’t care either way. I liked switching as an FO (not all to ATL legs) so usually go that way. My opinion only. :) |
Originally Posted by immolated
(Post 3978906)
Why do some people still say this? For the past 5-10 years at least during OE it's been taught that the PM does the walkaround as standard. If you're NOT doing it, just speak up so it doesn't get missed.
I know it used to be different but now it comes off as "I'm doing you a favor, champ". Don't really care either way, just a random thought. Habit. As an FO, I always assumed the walkaround was mine unless told otherwise....never understood why this was a big deal to some. I've always done them because I like getting out of the seat, but most FOs still seem surprised that I do them on their legs, even if it's raining/snowing lol. |
Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 3978942)
Habit. As an FO, I always assumed the walkaround was mine unless told otherwise....never understood why this was a big deal to some. I've always done them because I like getting out of the seat, but most FOs still seem surprised that I do them on their legs, even if it's raining/snowing lol.
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