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Why is this outside of Section 6? Even though scope is extremely important for us, it just opens the door for the company to have an excuse to negotiate things that are more important to them outside of Section 6 (ie LCA pay). Seems hypocritical of us.
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3423684)
Love the Global based approach rolling all JV partners into one agreement while still providing some level of theatre protection. Also love the immediate job based remediation vs long drawn out grievance that yields $200.
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3423704)
Why is this outside of Section 6? Even though scope is extremely important for us, it just opens the door for the company to have an excuse to negotiate things that are more important to them outside of Section 6 (ie LCA pay). Seems hypocritical of us.
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3423704)
Why is this outside of Section 6? Even though scope is extremely important for us, it just opens the door for the company to have an excuse to negotiate things that are more important to them outside of Section 6 (ie LCA pay). Seems hypocritical of us.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3423709)
it’s not outside of s6. This is an update on whole contact negotiations.
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3423704)
Why is this outside of Section 6? Even though scope is extremely important for us, it just opens the door for the company to have an excuse to negotiate things that are more important to them outside of Section 6 (ie LCA pay). Seems hypocritical of us.
"This agreement has been reached independently from the current Section 6 negotiations. This provides Delta pilots the opportunity to evaluate whether the agreement stands on its own merits." |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3423700)
Global based lumps all the Widebody JV into one and guarantees one for one growth. It simplifies the previous theatre based structure and allows the company to grow WB flying where it makes the most money while still maintaining some level of theatre protection. Downside is if a particular pilot likes a specific kind of WB flying that is reduced to fly elsewhere more profitly ie current Pacific flying they might be alittle aggravated.
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The real question is who wants this more? Who pushed to have it negotiated outside of section 6? If the company wants it that bad, hold it hostage for a TA on our contract.
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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
(Post 3423719)
OK. Everything you said is a win for management and not the pilots and is not complete. If they only have to do say 50% global Delta flying then they can draw market A to zero and an equal size B to 100% vs if every market has to be at least 50% and the company needs market B to be 100% Delta for whatever reason and market A is required to stay 50% Delta then that is a loss of many pilot jobs under the Global market plan. I don’t see this as a win for Delta pilots but a big win for management. But the jobs based remedy MAY make it worth it.
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Y'all need to chillax and wait for the language.
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