Seniority number 12493 to be the plug CA in NYC, expected date hitting that number of 11/2026.

Haven’t there been mentions of captains with 12 months on property? That was mentioned during the interview. BTW, I’m not looking to upgrade NYC, I’m hoping that I can hold the 320 out of ATL asap.

even that requires a year wait time to hit a number that will hold ATL.

If the widgetseniority site only counts line holders, that would make sense.

Well rough math would say if it takes 12,500 to hold captain and you start today around 14,500 and we're losing about 500 (conservatively) a year, then it'll take you 4 years if everything else stays the same (bidding habits, company growth, etc, etc). It's always a crapshoot though trying to predict upgrade times based on the past.

Your last sentence is so very true. Keep your AE preferences up to date Then BWYWWWYB.

~Bo

Every time I have looked at Widget Seniority it seems pretty far behind. I haven’t looked in over a year. I don’t think it takes into account positions that have been awarded. Only positions currently held. Therefore in today”s environment it is woefully behind. But hey I could be wrong.

You need to go to the AE analysis page to see outcome of outstanding AEs. The main page is indeed just present month data.

AE analysis takes into account every award and where you will fall at the end of it. It’s the page that keeps me coming back.

Also if you look at category list it has current month, next month, and generally speaking the month that all current outstanding AES will be done and converted. The first page is a “right now” snapshot

Also it would be better if it had a way to see where you will be with typical retirements. i.e. what is the average percent of retirements above mandatory? Is it 10%? 20%. It would be easy for Curly to add that in to get a real idea of where you will be.

You’ll be a little higher if you’re not one of those who fall off early due to death or going out sick.

No one knows what category sizes will be, where based might open/close, how trip construction will affect bidding behavior, what airplanes we’ll buy or retire. I can tell you that no seniority progression estimate has been very accurate in my years here, so measuring with a micrometer to cut with an axe probably isn’t worth the noise on widgetseniority.

Now I'm curious. How are the flow holdbacks accounted for?