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captkdobbs 01-08-2024 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3748120)
Have you tried that on HF? I've had to give 2 compulsory postion reports simultaniously because of frequency congestion. If there's any weather, every flight is negotiation deviations through an intermediary and company points drop way down the priority list. I guess I'm using my emergency authority a lot more than I thought by staying off frquency and only communicating my deviation needs. Single HF is all that's required, but is that a realistic way to operate in 2024?

I've been very fortunate to have only been non-CPDLC/non-satcom-ACARS for 2 crossings in 10 years (1 Boeing/1Airbus, 1 NAT/1 PAC) and on each, we completely ditched the environmental stuff and stuck with the ICAO-required and fuel pieces. Before DL I was actually a plumber on an ac with no SELCAL...now that sucked! And I feel for all those military folks with no HF SELCAL installed; HF listening watch with that noise for hours-on-end would definitely cause hearing loss.

notEnuf 01-08-2024 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by captkdobbs (Post 3748136)
I've been very fortunate to have only been non-CPDLC/non-satcom-ACARS for 2 crossings in 10 years (1 Boeing/1Airbus) and on both, we completely ditched the environmental stuff and stuck with the ICAO-required and fuel pieces. Before DL I was actually a plumber on an ac with no SELCAL...now that sucked! And I feel for all those military folks with no SELCAL installed; listening to that noise for hours-on-end would definitely cause hearing loss.

I've done that when I couldn't get a valid SELCAL check on WATRS. Turns out it wasn't that bad because I was listening to actual coms the entire time. It's unbelievable how much stepping on others is done when you don't have to listen and just key up on the ding. Sooooo archaic. ADSC/FANS was just getting going when I left the -ER. That's one of many reasons I didn't mind Narita and the Pacific. 737 on WATRS single HF is a joke. It's like playing outfield with a broken hockey stick.

JamesBond 01-08-2024 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by captkdobbs (Post 3748116)
I'd say the folks I fly with are less than 50% on the Turbulence reports.

The AM 6.4.2.8.5.2 (yes, it is that deep) states "Turbulence reports are required at all DAL POS reports and when endountering un-forecasted conditions" (bold mine, last line of the section). So even if you are on your route (Airbus) or abeam your fixes with a WPR reset accomplished (Boeing) (I.e. all position reports are being sent automatically) you are still supposed to send Turbulence Reports at DAL POS reporting points; ETOPS or not, radar contact or not, international and domestic.


I agree with notEnuf on the HF side. HF sucks and should go away in todays CPDLC/Satcom world. Use it if the CPDLC is inop/MEL some way, but ditch it when everything is working normally.

I wasn't saying anything abour doing turbulence reorts on HF.

ANd you got the reference. Thank you.

mikifare 01-08-2024 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by PilotBases (Post 3501263)
Embraer have stated that the E-175 is still compatible after 2027.https://leehamnews.com/2021/12/21/p-mtu-writes-off-investment-sees-no-revenue-in-future/ fethiye tours
E2-190 would be a decent jet. Looks like 96 peeps in a 2 class, that’s 2 FAs. If airlines are willing to pay captains on 76 seat jets 200/hr at the top end, thats 252/hr for 96 peeps in the back (a few dollars less than the 110 seat 717 too). Sure other costs are higher, but you also aren’t paying for a CPA or overhead of a wholly owned. I think there’s absolutely a world where the E2-190 makes sense at mainline. Probably costs a bit less per hour than the 221 with a slimmer fuselage as lower MTOW. Embraer might be keen to get a blue chip customer too.

I think it’s unlikely, but who knows in a few years.

Thanks for information

sailingfun 01-08-2024 04:30 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/a...005507190.html

FangsF15 01-08-2024 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3748269)

"...dozens of wide-body jets including extra A350-1000" and "could be made public as early as Friday when the U.S. carrier reports its fourth-quarter earnings".

Will be very interesting to see if it's more than just the 350-1000's, and what the delivery slots are.

Exactly in line with what GeneralLee has said. Naysayers have made negative comments which may not age well.

Vsop 01-08-2024 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3748059)
Do those routes require ETOPS at any point? I haven't been south of Aruba. The other stuff in SA puts you over the Caribean and CA so no ETOPS.

no but you had asked about watrs

BigHitterLlama 01-08-2024 05:24 PM

Maybe possibly soonly
Sorry to distract from the PTAPTP discussion.

tripled 01-08-2024 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by BigHitterLlama (Post 3748296)
Maybe possibly soonly
Sorry to distract from the PTAPTP discussion.

in unrelated news, Boeing may be more willing to negotiate an aircraft order to ‘offset’(?) any potential max sales deficit

tcco94 01-08-2024 06:00 PM

Crickets on that order from December :D


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