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flightlessbirds 12-01-2022 09:29 AM

Seeing a Cruz - Sanders - Rubio - Warren - Hawley coalition (they are the ones on the record against forcing this) tie this up in the senate long enough to put the heat back on the rail bosses is the best outcome. If they can play the arcane Senate procedural game against the set strike deadline (12/9) I suspect the rail companies will ultimately capitulate to avoid a strike.

Scout262 12-01-2022 09:35 AM

This works well for us. If they blocked the rail strike and then pilots representing less than 20% of the industry, that will be the end of the 2024 elections. They cannot afford to block another strike and pretend to be the party of labor.

TED74 12-01-2022 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by flightlessbirds (Post 3540745)
Seeing a Cruz - Sanders - Rubio - Warren - Hawley coalition (they are the ones on the record against forcing this) tie this up in the senate long enough to put the heat back on the rail bosses is the best outcome. If they can play the arcane Senate procedural game against the set strike deadline (12/9) I suspect the rail companies will ultimately capitulate to avoid a strike.

A very plausible scenario. Rail bosses add 4 days paid sick and everyone claims a win.

JamesBond 12-01-2022 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Scout262 (Post 3540754)
This works well for us. If they blocked the rail strike and then pilots representing less than 20% of the industry, that will be the end of the 2024 elections. They cannot afford to block another strike and pretend to be the party of labor.

While I would love to think you are right, Dems are gonna vote Dem. The biggest contributors to the Democrat party are the big business oligarchs in this country and they cater to them. They will screw labor all the whole claiming they are friendly to them and people are stupid enough to fall for it time and time again. It's actually almost comical.

flightlessbirds 12-01-2022 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3540756)
A very plausible scenario. Rail bosses add 4 days paid sick and everyone claims a win.

That’s what my cloudy crystal ball looks like.

WHACKMASTER 12-01-2022 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Scout262 (Post 3540754)
This works well for us. If they blocked the rail strike and then pilots representing less than 20% of the industry, that will be the end of the 2024 elections. They cannot afford to block another strike and pretend to be the party of labor.

Pfffft. Don’t I wish. You forgot about that little part where the elections are no longer untampered with.

Iceberg 12-01-2022 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3540790)
Pfffft. Don’t I wish. You forgot about that little part where the elections are no longer untampered with.

Oh good. We’re doing this again.

Mooner 12-01-2022 11:57 AM

…and Congress backs the big rail bosses. Sick leave shot down.

Hubcapped 12-01-2022 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3540777)
While I would love to think you are right, Dems are gonna vote Dem. The biggest contributors to the Democrat party are the big business oligarchs in this country and they cater to them. They will screw labor all the whole claiming they are friendly to them and people are stupid enough to fall for it time and time again. It's actually almost comical.

Can you please provide data with this claim. I have data that says otherwise, but since you made the claim let’s see your proof. Or you can fizzle out and not back up any of your statements like always.

Hint. Corp can’t donate
Hint. look at ceo contributions

Again I don’t care which party you support, they are all hot garbage, but the preponderance of outlandish unverified claims on here clearly stems from a vocal minority. Please have integrity and stop spreading misinformation. It undermines anything of value that you are trying to convey(of which you have great points. )

This data may be corrupted until the feds push the official numbers, but I could not find a single source that refuted it. Feel free and I will be an adult and say I’m wrong.

“While both parties have their billionaires, Republicans have many more. Of the 25 top donors this cycle, 18 are Republican, according to Open Secrets, and they have outspent Democrats by $200 million. Billionaires make up 20 percent of total Republican donations compared with 14.5 percent of Democratic donations.”

If you can’t support your claim will you be mature and admit your error?

If anyone is curious why I’m on this soap box is because I was subjected to 5 years of uncontrolled propaganda spewing by the left seat. I smile and wave and be a cameleon like I’m paid to, but man it gets old
#stopthedisinformation

Bucking Bar 12-01-2022 12:37 PM

How crazy is it that railroad management at the behest of hedge fund investors have cut workforce by 30% and cut ((ALL)) sick leave because they do not have the staffing to run the railroad if employees call in sick? It is beyond nuts that a guy told his wife of chest pain, but he had to go to work and flipping died of a preventable heart attack on the job.

And Ted Cruz is blabbing on Fox that this is "socialist" and the Senate should not be involved when (1) his own staff starts with 20 days paid sick & (2) Ted Cruz is a graduate of f'n HARVARD LAW SCHOOL it isn't like he doesn't fully know that the Railroad Labor Act specifies the exact remedy that the President (and that any President) has to follow. Cruz just likes to see things burn, especially if he thinks he can promote himself.

Just in case you need a picture of the ******* that got us (Americans) here:

https://static.foxbusiness.com/foxbu...an-REUTERS.jpg


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