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Hubcapped 11-28-2022 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3538935)
I'm fascinated by any in the pilot group singing any form of praise about Biden. In nearly EVERY instance of security, intelligence, global stability, military operations, border security, economics (all of it), our allies confidence he has been absolutely incompetent...absolutely. While Trump may have been a jerk, you just can not look at our current situation and believe things are better or just fine. Trump surrounded himself with competent thinkers, people on a mission to right the economy along with domestic and global stability. Not necessarily Trump, but his team. I would seriously almost question a pilots mental state to think everything's just fine under Biden. I get supporting your party politically, I do, but having been around since the 60's Ive seen a lot in this arena, even having served in political positions. In nearly all instances, other than ww2, most economies under Democrat leadership fair far worse than under a Republican led President and/or congress. I wouldn't expect Biden or any in his troupe to effectively understand the RLA , the railway personnel grievances, or ours for that matter. What ever MSNBC recommends for expediency is what will happen. Not what's good for the worker.

Do you do any research before posting your propaganda? You slander everyone that doesn’t agree with you as stupid and yet you got almost everything wrong with your economic analysis. Here are some basic easily verified statistics for you
1. For the 13 presidents beginning with Truman, total job creation was about 70.5 million for the 7 Democratic presidents and 29.1 million for the 6 Republican presidents

2. unemployment rate fell under Democratic presidents by an average of 0.8 percentage points, while it increased under Republican presidents by an average of 1.1 percentage points. Only Reagan and Eisenhower had lower unemployment after their terms.

3. budget deficits tended to be smaller under Democrats, at 2.1% potential GDP versus 2.8% potential GDP for Republicans, a difference of about 0.7 of a percentage point.

There are so many other points to make but I know you don’t care. I also fully understand that there are nuances here that aren’t shown like wars and such, but come on man, have some integrity and be balanced. Look dude, I’m not for or against, it’s just ridiculous when I see grown pilots spout propaganda from either side that is easily verifiable.

Whoopsmybad 11-29-2022 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 3538938)
Agreed. Trump’s a bully who likes to call people childish names. For some reason, he seems to make otherwise rational people only too eager to join him in such pursuits.

SAD!:D

Exactly. Gspeed generally makes valid arguments, although I don’t always agree. But as soon as I see Cheeto or Orange man or whatever Gspeed uses, I stop reading.

Name calling is so middle school. Don’t stoop to others level or some such….

Rooster435 11-29-2022 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3538935)
I'm fascinated by any in the pilot group singing any form of praise about Biden. In nearly EVERY instance of security, intelligence, global stability, military operations, border security, economics (all of it), our allies confidence he has been absolutely incompetent...absolutely. While Trump may have been a jerk, you just can not look at our current situation and believe things are better or just fine. Trump surrounded himself with competent thinkers, people on a mission to right the economy along with domestic and global stability. Not necessarily Trump, but his team. I would seriously almost question a pilots mental state to think everything's just fine under Biden. I get supporting your party politically, I do, but having been around since the 60's Ive seen a lot in this arena, even having served in political positions. In nearly all instances, other than ww2, most economies under Democrat leadership fair far worse than under a Republican led President and/or congress. I wouldn't expect Biden or any in his troupe to effectively understand the RLA , the railway personnel grievances, or ours for that matter. What ever MSNBC recommends for expediency is what will happen. Not what's good for the worker.

I’m a life long Republican but to co-opt your statement I would seriously almost question a pilots mental state to think Trump surrounded himself with competent thinkers.

He surrounded himself with sycophants and anyone who wasn’t didn’t last.

On a side note, I’ve been getting weekly emails from my State Farm Bureau imploring all farmers to write there congressman and urge them to dictate a rail contract. There’s even a hot link to autogenerate the letter. I’m guessing there are many other trade organizations doing the same so the pressure campaign is coming from many quarters, not just rail bosses.

Hubcapped 11-29-2022 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3538935)
I'm fascinated by any in the pilot group singing any form of praise about Biden. In nearly EVERY instance of security, intelligence, global stability, military operations, border security, economics (all of it), our allies confidence he has been absolutely incompetent...absolutely. While Trump may have been a jerk, you just can not look at our current situation and believe things are better or just fine. Trump surrounded himself with competent thinkers, people on a mission to right the economy along with domestic and global stability. Not necessarily Trump, but his team. I would seriously almost question a pilots mental state to think everything's just fine under Biden. I get supporting your party politically, I do, but having been around since the 60's Ive seen a lot in this arena, even having served in political positions. In nearly all instances, other than ww2, most economies under Democrat leadership fair far worse than under a Republican led President and/or congress. I wouldn't expect Biden or any in his troupe to effectively understand the RLA , the railway personnel grievances, or ours for that matter. What ever MSNBC recommends for expediency is what will happen. Not what's good for the worker.


Please provide a source for this statement. You claim every one is dumb that doesn’t agree with you, and yet you throw a tantrum on a board that is entirely and utterly false.

Answe these questions using .gov statistics

During the tenure of democrats or republicans since ww2, which party has lowest and highest of:
Employment
GDP
Inflation (latest round is clearly on dems, but prior to COVID)
Job growth
Deficits

Look I’m not anything, I don’t like any politicians, but to call everyone dumb and then just show how absolutely off the mark you are is pretty funny. Of course there are nuances here, but the proof is in the DATA, not your feelings. If you do actually do a little real searching, you may not like the answer you get.

DeltaboundRedux 11-29-2022 07:06 AM

According to this article, "Democrat leaders in Congress" are signaling that they're willing to shove a contract down the throats of the rail workers.

Fascinating. Private sector labor is deader than the dodo.

Watching this one with extreme interest. You can be certain that every business governed by the RLA is watching it as well.

"Take this deal now, or wait 6 more months and Congress will force you to take it."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ns/ar-AA14H1Md

notEnuf 11-29-2022 07:40 AM

They should just quit en masse if congress imposes a contract.

notEnuf 11-29-2022 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3538933)
I wasn’t trying to make this political. Just pointing out you dilute your argument by inserting these childish names. It seriously takes away from your good points. Take the advice or don’t. I don’t care what you call him personally.

"little Marco" "Dumbo" "Low Energy Jeb" "Alfred E. Neuman" "Crooked Hillary" "Swamp Person" "Al Frankenstein" "Snowman" "Fat Jerry" "Little Rocket Man" "Sleepy Eyes" "World-class sleazebag"
...have enter the chat.

there's even a wiki page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Donald_Trump

m3113n1a1 11-29-2022 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3539225)
"little Marco" "Dumbo" "Low Energy Jeb" "Alfred E. Neuman" "Crooked Hillary" "Swamp Person" "Al Frankenstein" "Snowman" "Fat Jerry" "Little Rocket Man" "Sleepy Eyes" "World-class sleazebag"
...have enter the chat.

Stop being so DeSanctimonious!

OOfff 11-29-2022 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3539217)
They should just quit en masse if congress imposes a contract.

a (conductor) family member of mine plans to do exactly that. The job isn’t worth it

notEnuf 11-29-2022 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 3538935)
I'm fascinated by any in the pilot group singing any form of praise about Biden. In nearly EVERY instance of security, intelligence, global stability, military operations, border security, economics (all of it), our allies confidence he has been absolutely incompetent...absolutely. While Trump may have been a jerk, you just can not look at our current situation and believe things are better or just fine. Trump surrounded himself with competent thinkers, people on a mission to right the economy along with domestic and global stability. Not necessarily Trump, but his team. I would seriously almost question a pilots mental state to think everything's just fine under Biden. I get supporting your party politically, I do, but having been around since the 60's Ive seen a lot in this arena, even having served in political positions. In nearly all instances, other than ww2, most economies under Democrat leadership fair far worse than under a Republican led President and/or congress. I wouldn't expect Biden or any in his troupe to effectively understand the RLA , the railway personnel grievances, or ours for that matter. What ever MSNBC recommends for expediency is what will happen. Not what's good for the worker.

:D:D:D Q
His team changed daily and the good ones eventually spoke to his incompetence. Good laugh though, thanks.


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