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Old 12-05-2022 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cynicalaviator
Is there anything in what we saw from the AIP to help us determine whether the company will be forced to improve the less than optimum schedules we currently have ? (Too many legs/day, short layover, etc)
Yes, there are gains for rotation construction. We will get details shortly, but there will be guardrails being put in place from the punishing, fatiguing, frankly unsafe rotations we fly currently.

This is a HUGE deal.

This is why everyone needs to keep emotions in check and let the info get out before flying off the handle (or lack thereof).
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Old 12-05-2022 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GeneralLee
Yes, there are gains for rotation construction. We will get details shortly, but there will be guardrails being put in place from the punishing, fatiguing, frankly unsafe rotations we fly currently.

This is a HUGE deal.

This is why everyone needs to keep emotions in check and let the info get out before flying off the handle (or lack thereof).
It’s only a huge deal if the language has teeth and recourse for violations. 23.M.7 anyone?
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Old 12-05-2022 | 06:56 AM
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Please bring on the 1 and 2 day trips!
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Old 12-05-2022 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg;[url=tel:3544022
3544022[/url]]Please bring on the 1 and 2 day trips!
Check out January bid pack for ATL 717. Absolute flood of them compared to ever before.
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Old 12-06-2022 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
Check out January bid pack for ATL 717. Absolute flood of them compared to ever before.

Same for DTW, there is an insane amount of credit in the system and the cynical side of me says it's likely a tactic to help with a yes vote. I mean, a 6-leg, 5-day on the 717... I can't ever remember seeing 20% 1-days and 20% 2-days. We've been asking for more 1/2-days (accord to RCC guys I've e-mailed) for quite a while, then suddenly they're here in force? I'm generally not that cynical with this stuff, but I'll be surprised if this continues. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 12-06-2022 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Same for DTW, there is an insane amount of credit in the system and the cynical side of me says it's likely a tactic to help with a yes vote. I mean, a 6-leg, 5-day on the 717... I can't ever remember seeing 20% 1-days and 20% 2-days. We've been asking for more 1/2-days (accord to RCC guys I've e-mailed) for quite a while, then suddenly they're here in force? I'm generally not that cynical with this stuff, but I'll be surprised if this continues. I hope I'm wrong.
Feast or famine. I know the locals like the short trips. I’m a middle-seniority commuter and I hope they take all the 1- and 2-days!!
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Old 12-06-2022 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I’m disappointed at how little details the AIP summary had. We need more NN’s. I want more information. If inflation wasn’t sky high right now, I’d be a solid yes vote on the little info I have. I’m voting no due to loss in spending power. If it passes, I guess it’s time to take a 16 year upgrade.
Would the additional info from NNs have any chance at swaying your vote or are you locked in on the pay rates being not enough?

Edit: Disregard, I saw another post where you might go the other way. I’m curious how many “decided” voters are open to change once seeing the language.

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Old 12-06-2022 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
I’m curious how many “decided” voters are open to change once seeing the language.
Probably not many. Human nature is to make quick decisions and then more gradually and even subconsciously seek out information to reinforce the original decision.
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