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fishforfun

12-05-2022 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3543928)

Half of the year I don't get hit the GS trigger, so I never fly a GS. Premium Open Time may get me off the couch if it doesn't require a min credit trigger. If there are others in that same situation it could impact pilot staffing by getting low timers to pick up open time. The hour hoes gonna hoe regardless, Premium Open Time may provide incentive for the lower time fliers.

Between PBS prebid premium and possibly premium open time, there will be nothing in open time. It’s a dream when you add in 18 hour LC….as long as our SC requirements don’t change.

Fourpaw

12-05-2022 05:57 AM

Well I read an article stating 6000 more FAs. On a 1 to 3 rule, that’s 2000 more pilots.

Buck Rogers

12-05-2022 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3543955)

Only if the language is rock solid. Vacation does push the requirement up but everything else is subject to the language and how the company applies it.

I have the utmost confidence that DALPA lawyers are not so inept that the company outplays us on every turn. With(hopefully)15K pilots looking at the language(if opened for MEMRAT) I am fairly confident that things will be fine overall.

ChazzMMichaels

12-05-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3543950)

Paybanding training slowdown effects are going to take awhile to materialize. Now that we know (or will know) the new paybands and work rules, a lot of people may now make a last jump to optimize their seniority. Bidding choices for when they send you to training is also going to re-incentivize fence sitters to make a move now that they can plan for it.

Also, people currently commuting for the 350 can possibly go back to a base where they live and be on the 330 for the same pay. Also some on the 350 may just like the 330 trips better. LAX with the 350 but not 330 will see some people be able to bid the 350 that couldn't before. Hard to say how much effect this all has on training much less that it will result in less pilots.

TruNorth

12-05-2022 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChazzMMichaels (Post 3544225)

Also, people currently commuting for the 350 can possibly go back to a base where they live and be on the 330 for the same pay.

RIP my already tenuous MSP 330 dream!

But nah worth it. It's the right idea IMO

Whoopsmybad

12-05-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChazzMMichaels (Post 3544225)

I do thing there will be some gamesmanship in the near future with pay banding happening, as people try to reshuffle their seniority not based on pay rates.

Trip7

12-05-2022 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3544293)

I do thing there will be some gamesmanship in the near future with pay banding happening, as people try to reshuffle their seniority not based on pay rates.

It's going to be wild. At least a year IMO for things to sort out, especially if they add SLC/LAX 330

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chrisreedrules

12-05-2022 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3544357)

It's going to be wild. At least a year IMO for things to sort out, especially if they add SLC/LAX 330

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And lots of hiring required between now and then…

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