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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:20 AM
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Learned a dirty side of our fellow pilot group today and wondering what can be done about it.

Short notice Green Slip pops up in MiCrew and I’m watching it and can barely make report as a short distance commuter but could still make it. Then it goes away and I check Daily Trip Coverage and although I was legal for it and hadn’t had Green Slip #1 yet, this guy gets awarded the trip as GS#2. So I start digging.

I call crew scheduling and they don’t tell me why he got it, just that he did. Then I get in touch with someone from DALPA scheduling and they are able to get the phone tapes and confirm this guy called CS and said since he lives 15 minutes from JFK he can do it. He called CS and cut the rest of us off at the knees!!

Now I may not have gotten it anyway as someone senior to me may have accepted it but this is bull crap!

I then call Pro Standards and although he agreed this is horse**** practice by our fellow pilots it’s not at their level and best advice is I call him and call him out. What good is that going to do?

Can we compile a list of these people that do that just as you would a scab during a strike? One way or another I want this scab to know we are all watching him.

Best part, it was an empty charter ferry for a trip tomorrow so no passengers were left waiting at an airport or inconvenienced.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HercTank
Learned a dirty side of our fellow pilot group today and wondering what can be done about it.

Short notice Green Slip pops up in MiCrew and I’m watching it and can barely make report as a short distance commuter but could still make it. Then it goes away and I check Daily Trip Coverage and although I was legal for it and hadn’t had Green Slip #1 yet, this guy gets awarded the trip as GS#2. So I start digging.

I call crew scheduling and they don’t tell me why he got it, just that he did. Then I get in touch with someone from DALPA scheduling and they are able to get the phone tapes and confirm this guy called CS and said since he lives 15 minutes from JFK he can do it. He called CS and cut the rest of us off at the knees!!

Now I may not have gotten it anyway as someone senior to me may have accepted it but this is bull crap!

I then call Pro Standards and although he agreed this is horse**** practice by our fellow pilots it’s not at their level and best advice is I call him and call him out. What good is that going to do?

Can we compile a list of these people that do that just as you would a scab during a strike? One way or another I want this scab to know we are all watching him.
*****s gonna *****. I’d say you’d get zero response from him.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:24 AM
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Best advice is although it is messed up, don’t let these things eat you alive. This has happened over the years at every airline I’ve worked for. Enjoy the time at home around the holidays.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HercTank
Learned a dirty side of our fellow pilot group today and wondering what can be done about it.

Short notice Green Slip pops up in MiCrew and I’m watching it and can barely make report as a short distance commuter but could still make it. Then it goes away and I check Daily Trip Coverage and although I was legal for it and hadn’t had Green Slip #1 yet, this guy gets awarded the trip as GS#2. So I start digging.

I call crew scheduling and they don’t tell me why he got it, just that he did. Then I get in touch with someone from DALPA scheduling and they are able to get the phone tapes and confirm this guy called CS and said since he lives 15 minutes from JFK he can do it. He called CS and cut the rest of us off at the knees!!

Now I may not have gotten it anyway as someone senior to me may have accepted it but this is bull crap!

I then call Pro Standards and although he agreed this is horse**** practice by our fellow pilots it’s not at their level and best advice is I call him and call him out. What good is that going to do?

Can we compile a list of these people that do that just as you would a scab during a strike? One way or another I want this scab to know we are all watching him.

Best part, it was an empty charter ferry for a trip tomorrow so no passengers were left waiting at an airport or inconvenienced.
I'm kinda surprised professional behavior is not at the level of professional standards.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooter432
Best advice is although it is messed up, don’t let these things eat you alive. This has happened over the years at every airline I’ve worked for. Enjoy the time at home around the holidays.
I appreciate the advice and you’re 100% right. I was just under the illusion we took care of each other and had some sort of code. Admittedly I was being naive, I just can’t stand greedy people with no ethics. Yes I’m new to the airline business.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:31 AM
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I don’t disagree but he isn’t a scab.

Also, your GS 1 isn’t feeding his/her kids and while it’s dirty, it isn’t illegal as long as scheduling pays the proper pilot for it.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:38 AM
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ACE it. Who knows. If you were the next in line for it, you might get single pay anyway.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:38 AM
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Share names in your category. Get folks checking his schedule. Sometimes people just need to know their bad behaviors are being noticed and then they make better decisions.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HercTank
Learned a dirty side of our fellow pilot group today and wondering what can be done about it.

Short notice Green Slip pops up in MiCrew and I’m watching it and can barely make report as a short distance commuter but could still make it. Then it goes away and I check Daily Trip Coverage and although I was legal for it and hadn’t had Green Slip #1 yet, this guy gets awarded the trip as GS#2. So I start digging.

I call crew scheduling and they don’t tell me why he got it, just that he did. Then I get in touch with someone from DALPA scheduling and they are able to get the phone tapes and confirm this guy called CS and said since he lives 15 minutes from JFK he can do it. He called CS and cut the rest of us off at the knees!!

Now I may not have gotten it anyway as someone senior to me may have accepted it but this is bull crap!

I then call Pro Standards and although he agreed this is horse**** practice by our fellow pilots it’s not at their level and best advice is I call him and call him out. What good is that going to do?

Can we compile a list of these people that do that just as you would a scab during a strike? One way or another I want this scab to know we are all watching him.

Best part, it was an empty charter ferry for a trip tomorrow so no passengers were left waiting at an airport or inconvenienced.
File an ACE report and an FCR. Crew scheduling isn’t supposed to disregard the coverage ladder just because someone asks.

I’m also surprised Pro Stans refused to get involved.
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Old 12-15-2022 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Share names in your category. Get folks checking his schedule. Sometimes people just need to know their bad behaviors are being noticed and then they make better decisions.
Well that’s some really poor advice. And that’s saying a lot from the forum.
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