They should give us 10 IVD with this new sec 23 language that will reduce PB days. You can use just like a PB day on reserve.

You have three guaranteed opportunities a year to use PB days. That's easily 9 PB days you can use a year with zero blue days.

Showing my math, four day trip, place an APD or IVD on the least credit day, apply PB to the other 3 days = profit.

But we are talking about using banked PB days to get time off right? We aren’t talking about how to get your money out of them. The whole point someone made is they roll thunder all month and then barely work the next three months. How does using an IVD help actually use your banked PB days to get time off?

You aren’t following the discussion here. No one is claiming you can’t make a ton of money using PB days.

Just to be clear on IVDs in the new TA, it’s 6 days total in no more then 2 instances. So 3 and 3, 4 and 2, 5 and 1, all 6 together. And they pay as vaca days, not the trip they drop.

Carry on….

I’m also of the opinion the SS is a PB killer. So be it, I can live with it. What’s pushing me toward a no vote is the 150% pbs trips. If DL believes trips will be tight based on reserve coverage and historical data…why wouldn’t they make those trips 150%? If I know pilots, EVERY SINGLE 150% PBS TRIP GETS TAKEN. Is there a limit on the amount of 150% trips? Those should be 200+% because it’s a huge gain by Delta.

Remember the WSing argument “He took my GS!”…. Just wait till 150% becomes prominent. Part of the union’s job is to protect pilots from pilots…these 150% trips do that meet that criteria IMO.

When you "roll thunder" correctly, you should end the month with hardly any (or none) PB days as your GS just pushes your days off till your next days on, and then you repeat with another GS instead of normal days off which pushes PB days onto your next days on, etc etc.

Done to it's logical "best" means you worked 1/2 the month for 2x the pay you woulda otherwise had.

Each time someone drops a Wednesday
(or any day) the reserve coverage gets a day worse. Doesn’t take long until the days are no longer blue. As has been said multiple times, the number of people that can actually do what you say you are doing is limited.

On reserve that is 3 PB days. I use 1 IVD on reserve to drop a Tuesday. Say I’m on call M-TH. Drop Tuesday. Now I’m only available for a 1 day trip, a day off , then only available for a 2 day trip. On a WB 1 PB or 1 IVD bought you a week off. Need more than 3 chances to use IVD with what we are signing up for with PB getting sliced up.

Not all the time. I just used a PB the other day. The coverage on that is actually better now/ higher blue than it was before I used it. This way of bidding is not that hard. You don’t have to be that senior to do it either. It’s sad that a lot of the junior pilot will never get a chance to use one of the best perks in our current contract. Maybe this won’t pass.