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Originally Posted by nene
(Post 3596365)
That was the point of my response. Gundam was hoping for the good ole FED Govt to take over all retirement planning (ala SSA) and we, as good peasants, just work and wait for the FEDS to make it equitable for us.
My point was that unfortunately, we are probably only a few dozen more $$Trillion away from the govt deciding that seizing assets to make things fair is only equitable way out. When the FED Debt INTEREST exceeds all other spending by a mile, you will start to see more and more of the country cry out for essentially a "reset". Student loan forgiveness will just be the opening salvo, as progressivism is not happy until everyone is equal in their own misery. |
Originally Posted by Gundam
(Post 3597157)
So decent social security that ensures a financially secure and enjoyable retirement instead of a barely adequate one is as terrible as deleting student loan debt? Oh no..please. No. Stop. don't.
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Originally Posted by Gundam
(Post 3597157)
So decent social security that ensures a financially secure and enjoyable retirement instead of a barely adequate one is as terrible as deleting student loan debt? Oh no..please. No. Stop. don't.
Well then why am I working at all? I can sit home and let someone else provide for my 'needs'. Social Security is not supposed to provide a comfortable retirement. Social Security is a supplement at best, a safety net at worst. Nevermind that it is the biggest Ponzi scheme in history, but nonetheless it was never intended for that. |
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 3596118)
One could make an argument that the stock market is a scam as well, food for thought.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 3597243)
So let me get this straight.... somehow it is MY responsibility to provide for YOUR retirement as well as YOUR college loans?
Well then why am I working at all? I can sit home and let someone else provide for my 'needs'. Social Security is not supposed to provide a comfortable retirement. Social Security is a supplement at best, a safety net at worst. Nevermind that it is the biggest Ponzi scheme in history, but nonetheless it was never intended for that. |
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3597273)
I agree with you in regards to social security. However, your post is a little bit humourous as you seem to want younger pilots to pay for YOUR retirement.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 3597277)
That is where you are completely wrong. I don't want ANYTHING from you. You have run with the mantra that I want you to pony up monies to me and that couldn't be further from the truth. But since you are against having the company doing anything that would have righted the wrong, now I am praying that I can keep your seat warm for you for an extra two years.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 3597278)
If you don't want junior guys to pay for your retirement, who does then?
Im still pretty impressed though, we got through a full 5 1/2 pages of civil discussion before it devolved into another mud slinger. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 3597278)
If you don't want junior guys to pay for your retirement, who does then?
Didn't the senior guys pay for your higher pay rates? Or your profit sharing? Or your QOL to date? |
Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 3597302)
Just to be the devil's advocate...
Didn't the senior guys pay for your higher pay rates? Or your profit sharing? Or your QOL to date? Mine or ours? Even still, that isn't the argument. 007 even admitted he doesn't want junior guys to give up anything for his retirement. So, the question I asked was, if we aren't giving up anything, who is paying for it? |
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