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Whoopsmybad 05-19-2023 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3638421)
What was the date on that article?? Zero plans to phase out the fleet that early. They're in the middle of bringing back the last ~15 or so more out of storage so soon we'll be flying every single one we've got that isn't being parted out. Last I heard was possibly retiring the fleet around 2030, and that will probably slip further back barring another black swan event. We're so desperate to get seats into the system that we're flying the Lion Air 737-900s without wifi, IFE, or the full cabin retrofit.

And with only 6 FC seats, and one row of C+. They are pretty crazy to look at, but they are throwing them in a lot of short high density routes, so it’s working. They have lots of jump seats though! Works nice for commuters.

Plabelover 06-04-2023 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by Kangoala (Post 3628293)
Atl: 350, 330, 765, 7er, 73n, 717, 320
nyc: 330, 765, 7er, 73n, 320, 220
dtw: 350, 330, 73n, 320, 717
msp: 330, 73n, 320
slc: 73n, 320, 220
lax: 350, 7er, 73n, 320
sea: 330, 7er, 73n, 320, 220

this might be a dumb question but the 7ER is a 767-400?

Apejackson 06-04-2023 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3646103)
this might be a dumb question but the 7ER is a 767-400?

765 is 767-400
7ER is 757 & 767-300ER

Gspeed 06-04-2023 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3638421)
What was the date on that article?? Zero plans to phase out the fleet that early. They're in the middle of bringing back the last ~15 or so more out of storage so soon we'll be flying every single one we've got that isn't being parted out. Last I heard was possibly retiring the fleet around 2030, and that will probably slip further back barring another black swan event. We're so desperate to get seats into the system that we're flying the Lion Air 737-900s without wifi, IFE, or the full cabin retrofit.

Fwiw, some of them do have IFE and wifi.

Plabelover 06-10-2023 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Apejackson (Post 3646104)
765 is 767-400
7ER is 757 & 767-300ER

but they both still share the type right?

tennisguru 06-10-2023 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3648759)
but they both still share the type right?

Yes. It is a short differences course between the 2. 9 month seat lock due to the short training footprint.

Plabelover 06-10-2023 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3648766)
Yes. It is a short differences course between the 2. 9 month seat lock due to the short training footprint.

So I’m assuming that a person can only fly one or the other not like united where you fly both?

raisins 06-10-2023 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover;[url=tel:3648810
3648810[/url]]So I’m assuming that a person can only fly one or the other not like united where you fly both?

well not at the same time silly. But yes. Fly the 75 and 76-3 in the same month.

Timbo 06-10-2023 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3648810)
So I’m assuming that a person can only fly one or the other not like united where you fly both?

The 767-400 is its own category. They only fly that airframe, not the 757 or 767-300.

The 767/757 category flies all the different types of the 757 and 767 EXCEPT the 767-400, due to the different panel, ie. Flat screen vs round dials.

There was a time 20 years ago when Delta tried to lump in the 767-400 with the 777 but the FAA said no.

tennisguru 06-11-2023 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 3648839)
The 767-400 is its own category. They only fly that airframe, not the 757 or 767-300.

The 767/757 category flies all the different types of the 757 and 767 EXCEPT the 767-400, due to the different panel, ie. Flat screen vs round dials.

There was a time 20 years ago when Delta tried to lump in the 767-400 with the 777 but the FAA said no.

From what I understand the FAA was ok with some lumping but they were going to require that pilots maintain landing currency in all variants and the company felt that would be way too complicated to keep up with so they never implemented it.


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