A BIG congrats and THANK YOU to United pilots

 

thank you for saving us from our own stupidity during TA1…

 

I’m Ron Burgundy?

 

Second that!

 

yeah that’s great and all….but I say THANK YOU to our NC for negotiating a me too that pays!

 

off course it’s not a good thing from our perspective. I’m just saying there are always three potential outcomes of all negotiations. Just think what would have happened if UA bit off on the Tumi TA? Or if AA took the first round of offering that was floated their way? Sometimes we need to be grateful others we have no control over don’t just torpedo our own attempts. That’s my point. Recognize and be grateful for outcomes that don’t negatively impact us; in circumstances that we cannot control but can be affected by.

 

sorry for sleeping in class. Is Delta now going to "snap up" and beat or match UAL rates ?

 

seriously, read an email or two.

 

After all is said and done UA and DL rates should all match. It’s 2.012% above our current rates.

UA beat our rates by 1%, which triggered our snap up to that rate +1%. Their contract has a “post DL snap up” of an additional 1% to match our new rates.

if you work here you got an email outlining all this a few hours ago

 

I agree with this. Just before our AIP was announced, the head of APA was quoted in a news article saying they were demanding a 10/5/5 deal, and AMR wasn’t playing ball. That 10/5/5 was based on rates that already lagged ours, and would have been a disaster to our eventual outcome of 18/5/5/4. Not to mention their “retro” was for a few percent for like 6 months, and they were doing next to nothing with quality of life, nor were they seeking any improvement to vacation or retirement.

From some very reliable sources, UALPA was not far ahead of what APA was publicly demanding for their own acceptable TUMI 2.0, and they publicly admitted that they had to pull their table position after the DAL deal was announced.

Neither were aiming for a bar even close to where DALPA ended up, and that is an unequivocal fact.

Maybe some of that context is why the MEC narrowly decided to take the deal being offered in RDU, and not leave to chance what market would exist post a potential AIP at UA or APA while DALPA was on ice.

But I hear that lady was pretty scary, nonetheless.