It was an ultimatum or threat, whichever term you choose. That took it out of the realm of unbiased mediation. The clincher was how quickly after the threat was made that the company threw down said 'supposal' and left for Atlanta.

All it did at that time was confirm negotiation fatigue on the "union's" part. They were afraid of being 'parked'.

You could argue based on the proposals at other carriers at the time and the lack of significant leap frogging, that the supposal was biased towards us.

The bottom line is that ALPA was not forced to accept anything. They looked at a final offer and decided it was better than the available alternatives. The pilots later looked at the TA and also decided it was better than the alternatives. Choices were made at each step, nothing was forced.

If that helps you rationalize it, then good for you.

I will give you this though, UAL or AA didn't do a ****ing thing to move the process along. But that isn't unusual. American never has and UAL only has once in my career.

For the fNWA guys and gals. Where is their frozen pension held? I don't see any funds breakdown on the yearly ERISA Annual Funding Notice report I receive. It only says that it is held in the Delta Master Trust. Also talks about some generalities on investing strategy, and a very general breakdown on the asset allocation. I suspect that we will all get a very similar annual report on the MBCBP when the funds fiscal year closes.

The MBCBP is a DB plan, that means it's professionally managed, and as others have pointed out, it also sits in a investment trust same as the frozen NWA pension.

Great. As happy as the rest of us are that you're comfortable in the role you've chosen for yourself.

I doubt the union was scared of your boogy man as much as the bar the other 2 unions were going to set much lower.

The MB in MBCBP...
 

Just want to make sure every knows that the MB stands for Market Based, not Min Balance.

Exactly. Look no further than AA who still didn’t exceed Delta. How many versions of a TA did UA and AA have combined? They’d have knee capped us if we went another route. Additionally, it was a reasonable offer that warranted serious consideration based on the negotiating environment.

That doesn't speak very highly of the cohesiveness of the 'association' now does it?

I'm glad someone else thought that. Well done, sir!

A5S