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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
(Post 3750111)
When were you in Joberg without armed transport?
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Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 3750651)
When we first started flying JNB we didn't have armed escort, and we could walk from the Hilton to Bull Run and all the way to the mall without any problems, but that was a long time ago. Last time I was there (24 mo ago) we had armed guards with us on the bus and in a car behind us. We took the hotel van to the mall, both ways.
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
(Post 3751077)
Do we get Glocks when we get to JNB? I heard the interns get one (even if they have to share it).
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3750069)
Joberg is statistically one of the most dangerous places we fly to. I'm always surprised why we have armed transport in Lagos but not in Joberg.
"Kidnapping for ransom on a commercial scale became rampant in Nigeria in 2011 spread across all the 36 states and the country's capital, Abuja.[13][14]" |
Originally Posted by 170Till5
(Post 3749913)
and in America you have to worry more about getting shot by a cop.. or anywhere in public
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
(Post 3749913)
and in America you have to worry more about getting shot by a cop.. or anywhere in public
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3751732)
Pull over when asked or lights are on in the first safe spot to stop. If at night put your dome lights on. Roll down the drivers window. Place your hands at 10 and 2 on the wheel and stay that way until the cop asks you to do something. You won't get shot.
https://youtu.be/-g-TCv5MkXs?si=EuWOK_WyRm3-1c4l |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3751732)
Pull over when asked or lights are on in the first safe spot to stop. If at night put your dome lights on. Roll down the drivers window. Place your hands at 10 and 2 on the wheel and stay that way until the cop asks you to do something. You won't get shot.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3752186)
in other countries, you don’t get shot even if you don’t put your dome light on
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Originally Posted by MoosePileit
(Post 3752152)
In AR they will P.I.T. you if you don't pull over quickly, period.
https://youtu.be/-g-TCv5MkXs?si=EuWOK_WyRm3-1c4l YGBSM.... That gal's lawsuit will be epic. |
Originally Posted by Jughead135
(Post 3752258)
YGBSM....
That gal's lawsuit will be epic. https://www.newsweek.com/rodney-dunn-arkansas-police-pit-pregnant-woman-1599257 she did exactly what she was supposed to do and he tried to kill her for it. Rodney Dunn faced no discipline for his actions. |
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3752309)
maybe, but even if she is successful, it will be the tax payers who foot the bill, not law enforcement.
https://www.newsweek.com/rodney-dunn-arkansas-police-pit-pregnant-woman-1599257 she did exactly what she was supposed to do and he tried to kill her for it. Rodney Dunn faced no discipline for his actions. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3752195)
No one gets shot in the US for not putting their dome light on. They get shot for pulling a deadly weapon on the cops. It's always a case of resisting arrest escalating to violence.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3752195)
No one gets shot in the US for not putting their dome light on. They get shot for pulling a deadly weapon on the cops. It's always a case of resisting arrest escalating to violence.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WViiA3XHoAY |
Originally Posted by waldo135
(Post 3752316)
“attempted murder”??? Pretty sure the bumper tap is a taught/approved maneuver. Completely uncalled for in this case it appears, but in no attempted murder.
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Originally Posted by waldo135
(Post 3752316)
“attempted murder”??? Pretty sure the bumper tap is a taught/approved maneuver. Completely uncalled for in this case it appears, but in no attempted murder.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3752318)
always is an interesting turn of phrase. But mostly it’s just strange to me how america has such a worse cultural problem with “resisting arrest escalating to violence” than other countries. What is wrong with us?
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3752330)
Show me in either of these video where Daniel Shaver was “resisting arrest escalating to violence“
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WViiA3XHoAY |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3752398)
That was tragic.
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3752398)
The cop should be prosectuted.
It only took 4 months after the trial for Mesa to start paying Brailsford, it took 5 years (after the trail, 7 years after his death) for Shaver’s wife and kids to see any money. |
Originally Posted by 170Till5
(Post 3749913)
and in America you have to worry more about getting shot by a cop.. or anywhere in public
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3752186)
in other countries, you don’t get shot even if you don’t put your dome light on
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3752195)
No one gets shot in the US for not putting their dome light on. They get shot for pulling a deadly weapon on the cops. It's always a case of resisting arrest escalating to violence.
Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3752318)
always is an interesting turn of phrase. But mostly it’s just strange to me how america has such a worse cultural problem with “resisting arrest escalating to violence” than other countries. What is wrong with us?
But as mentione, the amount of easily found videos that CLEARLY show the person esclating a situation is huge.
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3752395)
You are correct. It is cultural. The fact that there are so many guns also makes cops understandably trigger-happy.
Repeating myself, the amount of videos that can be seen where had the LEO not reacted in a fraction of a second and would have lost their life is astounding. The amount of peolpe that buy into/beleive that over 1000 unarmed african americans are shot/killed EVERY YEAR is astounding. |
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