2023 PS 10.3% (Paid Feb 14, 2024)
 

Thought I'd just drop a new thread to consolidate what we know.

The PS Election Tool is now live until Jan 26th.

These are the 7 items that comprise your gross wages from which the 10.3% is calculated. I am not military so if there's anything extra for MLOA then please add it.

Pilot Payment
Pilot GrievanceSettlement
Flt Pay/Pilot
Flight Advance/Pilot
Pilot Retro Pay
Mil Leave Adjustment
Salary (new hire pay)

And Mil leave adjustment for any MLOA for 2023.

And Salary for any pilot who received new hire pay in 2023.

The Profit Sharing Election Tool is now live on the Deltanet. My calculation (thanks TNDeltaFyboy) was within a dollar of Delta's. I'm waiting for a NN or somesuch for final verification.

Taxation is theft!

(1st World pilot woes)

shouldn't it be a 17% DC contribution as well?

Hoping it’s a typo, but within the profit sharing tool there is a bullet associated with Pretax 401K that says:

• You will receive a 16% company contribution to your 401(k) account or as 401(k) Excess.

Is it going to take arbitration to get the 17% they owe us?

Could be because the income was from last year.

Also, the PS Election Tool does not account for ALPA and DPMA dues. That's another 1.85% and 0.6% off the gross respectively.

1/15/24 check was 2023 earnings. I got 17% there though?

the 17% isn't dependent on when Delta got the money, it's dependent on when we get the money. In this case, 2024. So it should be 17%

No, it should be 17%. I'm guessing it's just a typo copy and pasted from last year. We'll have to verify when we get our checks though.

It should be just 2 tax rates : 15 percent up to 1,000,000 bucks a year and 25 percent for anything more . The tax system is dumb and out of control because of wasted government spending .

What will PS look like for the folks starting indoc this month in 2025? Will we be eligible?

Yes, it will be for wages in 2024. Unlike United, you’ll be eligible

What about my 5 unresolved ACE reports dating back to March?

did you call scheduling to stop the clock?

everyone is eligible if they earned a single dollar in the year PS is calculated from

Are you asking if you will get PS on this February 14? The answer is no. If you are asking if you will get PS next year then yes.

Yeah company was made aware of all the issues before ACE created. One was a lengthy conversation with a scheduling supervisor who intentionally changed his interpretation of the PWA after being presented with facts and basically forced illegal 23K flying.

Fly now, grieve later. What happens if you can’t actually grieve later because they sit on their hands. Can I stop flying now?

Also, is crew assist submit pay issue the new hotness over ACE? Had another fishy situation where I should have been awarded a GS.

I think the crew assist is for issues for what you actually flew (sit, EDP, RR, etc.) but ACE is for missed GS and such.

Why 2 tax rates? There should only be 1 rate.

You can use both crew assist and ACE for all of the above. But technically you should use crew assist first, since your first point of contact to get a pay issue resolved should be the company. If that doesn’t work, file an ACE and let DALPA handle it.

This is the way. All pay issues to the company first. That’s what the company and union both said. And that’s the way it should be.

What about corporations and not-for-profits? Churches? Capital gains? Disability? Social security? Charitable contributions?

Does your simple plan apply to all income equally?

Capital gains is mostly a tax on inflation.

The underlying solution to tax reform is spending reform. Reduce the size of government and magically taxes will decrease. All the arguments about tax reform are pointless without spending reform. When we are debating the best taxation system, big government has already won.

i don’t see that note. Maybe they fixed the glitch?

Saw it when you go in and make the elections for 401k and everything else.

One tax rate. 10%, on ALL sources of income, and no deductions at all. Period. But it is imperative to be established thru constitutional amendment.

And it is dumb and 'out of control' by design. To control YOU.

Too high.

ZERO taxes, that’ll show ‘em! And a free pony! Nobody’s controlling me!

I'd rather see a national sales tax, but that will never fly, and there would be to many exceptions. Drug dealers have to eat too though.

I can agree wih you 100%. Consumption tax is the way. Want to avoid as many taxes as possible? Buy less crap.

Also almost impossible for large-scale tax evasion, unless of course exceptions creep in.

Tarrifs were what largely funded the country by design while at the same time encouraging domestic jobs and infrastructure. The fake "free market" neocon grifters only semi-correctly point out that tarrifs are paid by the consumer...yes, they are, but so it our insane 40+State income taxes+SS=MC+Payroll tax scheme, and ever since that shift happened (plus putting China in the WTO and other changes) we've hollowed out the middle class and exponentially expanded government spending. Yet some still pretend the problem is insufficient revenue collection when we're collecting double to triple what a balanced budget government was operating on barely 20 years ago.

Its the spending. Period.

Left and right are two wings of the same bird and it ain't the "freedom eagle" anymore.

https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedi...b-00137241c023

Would this sales tax apply to real estate? What about stocks or other investments that you buy?

and is every transaction including business to business is taxed, making it a kind of VAT?

That's why I say it has to be via constitutional amendment. Of course even then they could put in exemptions, but it would be harder. I just don't get why everyone shouldn't have some skin in the game. If you make anything, pay your fair share. And as an added bonus, you get to vote. If you don't pay in to the system, you don't get that privelege either.

But it is by design.

That b!tc4 is a complete disaster.

Anyone ask anyone to confirm this?