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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
(Post 3766019)
I am not wholly against this raise but I think it should have been put to a vote. Seems rather sketch to just give yourself a raise. Additionally from the Union reps I have talked to it is pretty lucrative. There are tips and tricks (that I don’t know) that can get them far more than 108 hours a month. Also they can do most if not all work remotely so they never have to commute. Sleep in their own bed every night, never miss a kids ball game, rarely even have to leave the house for work. Not saying I want to do it (but have considered it). But also just pointing out ALPA work can be quite lucrative and great QOL.
But again, none of that bothers me. We have line pilots who strategically use payback days and earn 300+ hours in a given month. Why do we care if our ALPA volunteers earn a little extra for the work they do? |
Last paragraph of the email: it doesn’t come out of our union dues.
Send it. |
Originally Posted by CRJphlyer
(Post 3766058)
I’m not sure who you’ve been talking to but this is definitely not the norm. Worth noting, if I read that letter correctly it is my understanding that 108 hours is only for actual full time ALPA people. They can’t go above 108 hours if they’re full time. If a volunteer is part time and being compensated 6 hours /day they could conceivably still pick up a greenslip and earn more than 108 hours.
But again, none of that bothers me. We have line pilots who strategically use payback days and earn 300+ hours in a given month. Why do we care if our ALPA volunteers earn a little extra for the work they do? |
Originally Posted by neodd
(Post 3766064)
Last paragraph of the email: it doesn’t come out of our union dues.
Send it. |
Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
(Post 3766067)
Yes I agree. The full time chairs/vice chairs etc. work in ATL and are full time and get 108. I am talking of the multitudes of others who are part time and also fly. They can make bank and get a sweet QOL.
Feels like the guy paving my patio telling me what it costs to do the job right. And then me subsequently bartering with him. If that’s the cost to attract talented union volunteers then that is the cost. |
Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
(Post 3766067)
Yes I agree. The full time chairs/vice chairs etc. work in ATL and are full time and get 108. I am talking of the multitudes of others who are part time and also fly. They can make bank and get a sweet QOL.
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
(Post 3766082)
Part time still at 5:15/day. I don't know how they make more doing part time ALPA+fly rather than full time fly. I can't see the math there.
“PMRC Recommendation: Increase daily FPL from 5:15/day to 6:00/day for part-time volunteers.” Easy math: drop your crappy low time trips for ALPA work. Pick up a greenslip instead. Or for QOL pre post ALPA days on the days you have a kids baseball game. Lots of ways to skin the cat. Like I said earlier I don’t know how it all works but have been told by ALPA part time volunteers it adds QOL and can add pay. I don’t begrudge them using the system to their advantage but let’s be clear - nobody was getting screwed under the old pay system and I think it should have been put to MEMRAT vote. Just stinks of tone deafness to give yourself a raise. |
Originally Posted by myrkridia
(Post 3766071)
It doesn't increase our union dues.
sounds like a good chunk of this will be covered by the company. |
Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
(Post 3766086)
From the email:
“PMRC Recommendation: Increase daily FPL from 5:15/day to 6:00/day for part-time volunteers.” Easy math: drop your crappy low time trips for ALPA work. Pick up a greenslip instead. Or for QOL pre post ALPA days on the days you have a kids baseball game. Lots of ways to skin the cat. Like I said earlier I don’t know how it all works but have been told by ALPA full time volunteers it adds QOL and can add pay. I don’t begrudge them using the system to their advantage but let’s be clear - nobody was getting screwed under the old pay system and I think it should have been put to MEMRAT vote. Just stinks of tone deafness to give yourself a raise. |
Originally Posted by PilotBases
(Post 3766082)
Part time still at 5:15/day. I don't know how they make more doing part time ALPA+fly rather than full time fly. I can't see the math there. Unless you live in ATL, you're still headed out to a hotel and getting a max of 5:15. No better than an ADG trip, that's not better QOL than the line.
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