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Trip7 10-29-2024 09:21 PM

C44 Involved in Walkout at ALPA BOD
 
Probably going to be a hot topic around the industry as a photo of the walkout with a political flag being displayed is circulating. Outgoing C44 Chair is pictured along with an incoming C44 FO Rep.

20Fathoms 10-29-2024 10:00 PM

Fun with Flags?

PilotJ3 10-30-2024 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3848700)
Probably going to be a hot topic around the industry as a photo of the walkout with a political flag being displayed is circulating. Outgoing C44 Chair is pictured along with an incoming C44 FO Rep.

Soooo…where’s the picture?

crewdawg 10-30-2024 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3848748)
Soooo…where’s the picture?


If you're on the FB meme page, its on there. They're holding a big red Trump flag. People are losing their minds...I think Godwin's law was triggered.

Gspeed 10-30-2024 06:33 AM

Our group made huge contractual advances in 2012, 2016, and 2023. Ill let you all correlate that with the party overseeing the NMB during those years. Hint: it wasn’t mandarin mussolini or his party.

MinRest 10-30-2024 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3848770)
Our group made huge contractual advances in 2012, 2016, and 2023. Ill let you all correlate that with the party overseeing the NMB during those years. Hint: it wasn’t mandarin mussolini or his party.

Always fun to see the complete and total disconnect that Trump cult lovers show when they are also seemingly pro-union lol...

CBreezy 10-30-2024 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3848771)
Always fun to see the complete and total disconnect that Trump cult lovers show when they are also seemingly pro-union lol...

They aren't pro-union. They are mildly pro-my-union and only when it benefits them. Many of them think they'd make more money under a merit-based system and CERTAINLY believe only pilots are worthy of having unions. All other unions are bad.

PilotJ3 10-30-2024 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3848751)
If you're on the FB meme page, its on there. They're holding a big red Trump flag. People are losing their minds...I think Godwin's law was triggered.

I don’t have FB. :D

PilotJ3 10-30-2024 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3848770)
Our group made huge contractual advances in 2012, 2016, and 2023. Ill let you all correlate that with the party overseeing the NMB during those years. Hint: it wasn’t mandarin mussolini or his party.

Also gotta add that in 2020 we survived not because of that party. I kept my job because of that administration and he made it clear that airlines were essential to the country.

Meanwhile they blocked JetBlue/spirit merger.

CBreezy 10-30-2024 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3848777)
Also gotta add that in 2020 we survived not because of that party. I kept my job because of that administration and he made it clear that airlines were essential to the country.

Meanwhile they blocked JetBlue/spirit merger.

Anti-trust laws blocked the merger. Jetblue scuttled its own merger by telling the investors they were going to eliminate the ULCC model.

Gspeed 10-30-2024 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3848777)

Meanwhile they blocked JetBlue/spirit merger.

lol that’s an adorable take

CX500T 10-30-2024 07:07 AM

Neither candidate is pro-labor. Old school Democrat politicians used to be, but as my family members (lots of union trades guys/gals) have put it, "we didn't leave the Democrat party they left us"

One party is less actively anti-labor as a group but being not anti something doesn't make you pro something.

I tend to vote R, if RFK Jr had made it as the D candidate I'd probably have switched sides for him. But we didn't get a real primary on either side.

But this was poor form on the C44 reps. Not all pilots are Republican voting Uber Conservative. Not even in Atlanta.


StoneQOLdCrazy 10-30-2024 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3848786)

But this was poor form on the C44 reps. Not all pilots are Republican voting Uber Conservative. Not even in Atlanta.

I understand it was just the outgoing C44 chair (DA) and one of the incoming FO reps (ME). they are in lockstep on the far right fringe

Trip7 10-30-2024 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3848786)
Neither candidate is pro-labor. Old school Democrat politicians used to be, but as my family members (lots of union trades guys/gals) have put it, "we didn't leave the Democrat party they left us"

One party is less actively anti-labor as a group but being not anti something doesn't make you pro something.

I tend to vote R, if RFK Jr had made it as the D candidate I'd probably have switched sides for him. But we didn't get a real primary on either side.

But this was poor form on the C44 reps. Not all pilots are Republican voting Uber Conservative. Not even in Atlanta.

IMO, this isn't a Republican vs Democrat election. This is a USA vs Cult election. Any traditional Republican, John McCain(RIP), Mit Romney, George W Bush, John Kasich etc would have won this election in a landslide.

PilotBases 10-30-2024 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3848797)
IMO, this isn't a Republican vs Democrat election. This is a USA vs Cult election. Any traditional Republican, John McCain(RIP), Mit Romney, George W Bush, John Kasich etc would have won this election in a landslide.

Oh for Jon Huntsman.

tunes 10-30-2024 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3848797)
IMO, this isn't a Republican vs Democrat election. This is a USA vs Cult election. Any traditional Republican, John McCain(RIP), Mit Romney, George W Bush, John Kasich etc would have won this election in a landslide.

please don't bring that stuff here.

OOfff 10-30-2024 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 3848799)
please don't bring that stuff here.

save it for where it belongs: the lobby of an alpa meeting

DeadStick 10-30-2024 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3848786)
”we didn't leave the Democrat party they left us"

Most sane people are politically homeless these days.

CBreezy 10-30-2024 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by DeadStick (Post 3848806)
Most sane people are politically homeless these days.

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The only way to truly affect change in our political system is to join a faction and work within it. Since both parties are dominated by their extremes, candidates spend their entire primary campaign trying to be the most extreme then spend the rest trying to convince the moderates they only need to hold their nose to tolerate them. Within my district, many of us worked to get a very extreme rep ousted during a primary. The candidate chosen is far more moderate.

If we continue to remain agnostic, the rest of us will be forced to continue to watch out political system get torn apart by the fringes. The vast majority of us agree on a lot more than the candidates want us to believe.



FangsF15 10-30-2024 08:07 AM

People can’t help themselves in these threads. It’s too tempting to bring the partisan politics in. Go somewhere else to yell at clouds and change zero minds on the election.


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