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captkdobbs 07-28-2025 10:25 AM

Does this mean we can take deliveries again?
 
I get several 'News Summary' emails each morning and the one story that piqued my interest is the EU trade deal. Several news agencies (mostly quoting Reuters and AP) state that there are no tariffs on airplanes or airplane parts.

From the Reuters article

Von der Leyen said there would be no tariffs from either side on aircraft and aircraft parts, certain chemicals, certain generic drugs, semiconductor equipment, some agricultural products, natural resources and critical raw materials.
"We will keep working to add more products to this list," von der Leyen said, adding that spirits were still under discussion.
Unfortunately there are no quotation marks on the first comment so it could be paraphrased or assumed. My question is, does this mean we can stop playing the "not-yet-delivered" game to avoid paying the tariffs?

FangsF15 07-28-2025 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by captkdobbs (Post 3932594)
I get several 'News Summary' emails each morning and the one story that piqued my interest is the EU trade deal. Several news agencies (mostly quoting Reuters and AP) state that there are no tariffs on airplanes or airplane parts.

From the Reuters article

Unfortunately there are no quotation marks on the first comment so it could be paraphrased or assumed. My question is, does this mean we can stop playing the "not-yet-delivered" game to avoid paying the tariffs?

I think it is a very reasonable assumption that deliveries will resume. Varying theories on whether that will make a 787 order more or less likely. One could argue either way...

Tinpusher007 07-28-2025 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3932612)
I think it is a very reasonable assumption that deliveries will resume. Varying theories on whether that will make a 787 order more or less likely. One could argue either way...

Did we ever stop taking deliveries or were they just "accepted" in other countries before touching US soil?

1Taco 07-28-2025 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 3932621)
Did we ever stop taking deliveries or were they just "accepted" in other countries before touching US soil?

some brand new a321s went into storage in Europe and their engines were taken off and shipped over as spares.

FangsF15 07-28-2025 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 3932621)
Did we ever stop taking deliveries or were they just "accepted" in other countries before touching US soil?

I think one 350 came in through Japan, and was 'bouncing' every other leg international. Other than that, I don't know, but as 1Taco said, hopefully the 321's will quickly enter the country now.

captkdobbs 07-28-2025 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 3932621)
Did we ever stop taking deliveries or were they just "accepted" in other countries before touching US soil?

I didn't know about the 321s.

I knew we had at least a couple 330s/350s playing the game where it only went between the 'accepting country' and the US. They weren't allowed to go US-to-US on a revenue flight.

Tinpusher007 07-28-2025 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by 1Taco (Post 3932626)
some brand new a321s went into storage in Europe and their engines were taken off and shipped over as spares.

I thought these were the flatbed birds that the FAA hasn't certified the suites for.

*** And on this topic why is taking so long to say yay or nay? I know, I know, the FAA. But still..

nene 07-28-2025 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 3932653)
I thought these were the flatbed birds that the FAA hasn't certified the suites for.

*** And on this topic why is taking so long to say yay or nay? I know, I know, the FAA. But still..

Why is it taking 3yrs to find and certify a fix to the MAX 7 when the MAX 8 is being delivered concurrently the whole time with the same exact defective anti ice cowling interface?

Bo Darville 07-28-2025 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 3932653)
I thought these were the flatbed birds that the FAA hasn't certified the suites for.

*** And on this topic why is taking so long to say yay or nay? I know, I know, the FAA. But still..

would be nice to hear an update on the planes with the lay flats. Back in late winter the rumor was certification by June. Van driver hasn’t given any new updates since. Anyone? Bueller?

Meme In Command 07-28-2025 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Bo Darville (Post 3932713)
would be nice to hear an update on the planes with the lay flats. Back in late winter the rumor was certification by June. Van driver hasn’t given any new updates since. Anyone? Bueller?

The July 320 newsletter shows 6 NEOs in storage. Only specifies 2 of them as lay flats and are the only 2 without an expect return to service date.


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