WB RES in Base
 

Searching for some insight on WB RES life in base? I know it varies month to month. I'd be junior on RES but curious about others experience.

Thanks!

If you are going to be really junior WBB, you will probably be forced into a line.

What makes you think you can hold RES every month?

Just assumed I would be on RES looking at Wide reports

Can't speak to the in base stuff since I commute, but it will vary month to month on how 'senior' reserve goes. Flew with a reasonably senior reserve guy the other week that was out of base since we apparently ran out of FOs. So don't always expect to sit around and not get called.

That said, in base + reserve sounds like a dream some days compared to the forever commute. You'll probably enjoy it if you can manage the sleep when on trips.

Thanks Velo.

Winter bids quite different than summer for international. Generally reserves get used a lot more in the summer so guys avoid bidding it. Winter reserves often sit around and more senior pilots will bid for it. Some senior guys also use the alternating bid strategy.

I can attest as an A.

LAX is the one anomaly due to southern hemisphere flying. SYDx2 BNE AKL MEL will keep reserves working during Northern Hemisphere winter. ATL usually covers one AKL crew with a domestic leg to/from LAX. Southern hemisphere winter is when LAX gets the domestic international sandwich via LAX-ATL.

I'm ATL based \\\\\Don't judge LOL. Never been on RES intentionally. I really appreciate every input!

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Its fleet dependent. You're better off looking at some wide reports, finding reserve around your seniority and then looking at their schedules at the end of the month. But generally being junior I'd plan to fly enough to get into the 2nd bucket every month (2ish trips?) and very few green slips.

Question for y'all. How long do you generally spend on property at Delta before you can hold any kind of widebody flying out of ATL? Delta pilots I've met in the wild have given me answers ranging from 15 to 20 years. What do y'all think?

Sorry if this isn't the right thread for this.

A new hire today is looking at over 10 years before holding ATL WB FO. Assuming hired around 17500, 500ish retirements until 2032 then 350 ish a year (based on ALPA app estimates) and assuming 12,500ish to hold WB FO. My guess: 12-13 years.

growth????

Meme is on target above.

FYI, check out the AE Trend Analysis stickied post. It has the data to support the fact it will take 70% overall seniority to hold the bottom WB in the company. ATL is consistently more senior to the rest of the bases, so it is likely to be more senior than that. FWIW, 70% has been consistent for 10+ years, so I wouldn’t expect that to vary much in the future.

However age 67 will delay it further when/if that passes, but a large WB order will put more junior pressure on the future awards. 10 years from now, all our 767-3””’s will have been replaced by top pay-banded positions.

The question then is when could you get to about 70% overall seniority or better?

Too uncertain for me to even remotely try to come up with an estimate. We can plan to grow X% but the economy/ Airbus and Boeing delivery schedules/ too many variables we have no control over.

The only unaccounted for variable id add to the equation is a new contract. Pay raises will likely push a number of NB captains to jump over to WB FO as they can improve QOL without taking much of a pay hit when comparing previous contract NBA to new contract WBB pay rates. So id say with that in mind, my 12-13 year estimate is very optimistic.

But then again, 787's...

I appreciate all the info!

Depends what you mean by WB flying. If it's purely flying across an ocean 7ER can be quick a few years, but if you mean top pay bracket then it will be longer. Check out the AE thread and add a premium (longer wait) for ATL and a discount for (shorter wait) NYC.