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Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3974957)
I just did.
Even if we split the difference between your $92 million estimate and my $255 million estimate, we’re looking at a number that isn’t exactly a small blip on Flight Ops’ cost sheet. It’s a huge blunder on management’s end, and will be extremely valuable throughout section 6. |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3974947)
You either didn’t analyze the data, or came up with a number that was too large to support your argument. Got it.
Here’s an easy way to look at it: Assume that the average pilot salary is $300,000. Now assume that 5% of the average pilot’s awarded line results in last minute coverage (a low estimate, below the average 6%-ish sick rate, not including many other causes of last minute coverage). Rather than making a wild guess at numbers and passing them off as facts, why don't you call your rep and ask. They can probably find what the real number is. |
Is it enough for Delta to give a retiree a Porsche GT3 if they leave here with their sick bank untouched…
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Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3974951)
How does a Gucci trip that “should have” gone to the #1 pilot, but instead went to the #2 pilot, affect the plug in the category, when the plug had no realistic chance of being awarded it?
The communal 23M7 idea is absolutely an attempt to water down seniority. Regardless, it would only increase auto-accept use as everyone now has a stake in 23M7 payments. And no it's not watering seniority. |
What’s the limit if any on 23m7 payments? I saw numerous people getting 3 or 4 during the month going through the lists.
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Do you have to have auto accept on to get a M7 payout? I thought just having the appropriate slip in and being the right one in line was sufficient even without auto accept.
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Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3974947)
You either didn’t analyze the data, or came up with a number that was too large to support your argument. Got it.
Here’s an easy way to look at it: Assume that the average pilot salary is $300,000. Now assume that 5% of the average pilot’s awarded line results in last minute coverage (a low estimate, below the average 6%-ish sick rate, not including many other causes of last minute coverage). With auto-accept and M7 farming in full swing in most categories, every last-minute trip coverage results in 23M7 (even if it goes to an SC reserve). 5% * $300,000 * 17,000 pilots = $255 million per year Keep in mind that the current surge in 23M7 use is relatively recent, and that the company has not yet realized these costs over a sustained period. This one is laughably poor. Sorry, it’s true. In effect, assuming the equivalent of every single pilot getting 5% of their pay from 23M7?? (Not to mention that avg pay is 300 grand?? BTW, 15-20% of a category is reserve) Not even close. The first bold is ironic. |
I think if you reject or ignore a trip awarded to you via auto-accept, it should automatically delete all of your PCS slips. That would force more people to put in legitimate slips vs farmers. It would speed up coverage too. (You are always free to re-put slips in)
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
(Post 3975007)
I think if you reject or ignore a trip awarded to you via auto-accept, it should automatically delete all of your PCS slips. That would force more people to put in legitimate slips vs farmers. It would speed up coverage too. (You are always free to re-put slips in)
once again this is a company problem...what are they going to give us to speed up THEIR coverage? |
Originally Posted by Planetrain
(Post 3975007)
I think if you reject or ignore a trip awarded to you via auto-accept, it should automatically delete all of your PCS slips. That would force more people to put in legitimate slips vs farmers. It would speed up coverage too. (You are always free to re-put slips in)
This is such a weird debate, led by lack of transparency on the company side. The pilot vs pilot witch hunt on auto-accept is insane. |
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