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MOU 25-05
What a waste of negotiating leverage..
we made a complex system even more complex and added more slip steps that ruin what we could have rolled into a simplified section 6 |
That e-mail was a lot of words. Anyone have the cliff notes yet?
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Originally Posted by NJGov
(Post 3965521)
What a waste of negotiating leverage..
we made a complex system even more complex and added more slip steps that ruin what we could have rolled into a simplified section 6 Unless I'm missing something glaring, this is a solid agreement. It also incorporates serveral items suggested here by various users, like a 'new step of coverage' to honor seniority, while eliminating the 23M7 hoovers. The only people who are going to be upset about this are top-page pilots who have been riding the 'free money' 23M7 gravy train, and are upset it is now coming to an end. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3965523)
OH, I disagree. This is a good change. "Quick Slip" = 4x pay. Permanent QHCP. And temporary elimination of the verification hours. Giddy up. And it take 2 consecutive bid period "Compliance Window" with less than 10 Dart's about MiCrew failing to process sick correctly. IOW, at LEAST 2 bid periods after everything is fixed, there will be no verification window. We had to have them over a barrel for the company to agree to that.
Unless I'm missing a glaring something, this is a solid agreement. I'm going to guess you are a senior FO, who has been riding the free money 23M7 gravy train, and are upset it is now coming to an end. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3965523)
OH, I disagree. This is a good change. "Quick Slip" = 4x pay. Permanent QHCP. And temporary elimination of the verification hours. Giddy up. And it take 2 consecutive bid period "Compliance Window" with less than 10 Dart's about MiCrew failing to process sick correctly. IOW, at LEAST 2 bid periods after everything is fixed, there will be no verification window. We had to have them over a barrel for the company to agree to that.
Unless I'm missing a glaring something, this is a solid agreement. I'm going to guess you are a senior FO, who has been riding the 23M7 gravy train, and are upset it is now coming to an end. |
Im seeing no downside.
IA free for all isnt step 1. They have to finish step in progress before hitting the 23M7 button. They can't go to that without identifying the pilot who is skipped and due M7 pay. They have the Quick Slip added, which has to run before the IA, yes, no auto accept but also they now pay 4x. And it won't call you if you don't have one in. NO TRIGGER QHCP now matches reality of medical care. Lookback is gone until 2 bid periods with an agreed metric met to show "it actually works" |
Originally Posted by tripled
(Post 3965528)
maybe a sunset provision on QS as I can imagine the co wanting to eliminate gs in the future. Otherwise, I wonder what posters will find to argue about now?
However, it does get rid of the IA disaster and return some seniority to the system. |
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3965531)
We basically gave away batch sizes and auto accept. Now (especially in big categories) our phones will be blowing up with trips we have no chance of getting.
However, it does get rid of the IA disaster and return some seniority to the system. |
Originally Posted by tripled
(Post 3965528)
maybe a sunset provision on QS as I can imagine the co wanting to eliminate gs in the future. Otherwise, I wonder what posters will find to argue about now?
I also like that if they DO go to a QS, it's a one-step process. No-one can keep sucking up all the good deal 23M7 pay for doing nothing. Hopefully will reduce the number of WS and OOBWS sitting in the system, just trolling for 23M7 monty. There is no incentive to do so now. Very solid indeed. |
Originally Posted by CX500T
(Post 3965530)
They have the Quick Slip added, which has to run before the IA, yes, no auto accept but also they now pay 4x. And it won't call you if you don't have one in.
This appears to be very solid to me. It's certainly not something I anticipated them creating in advance of Section 6. If it works (implementation of the QS step is forecast for mid-2026), it will allow us to pivot Section 6 negotiations to other meaningful improvements to the contract, rather than trying to work on this. Consider me impressed. |
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