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Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3992632)
undefeated?

i’m saying that i doubt the $100m number and think it’s less, yes. i also am willing to bet you won’t post any reasoned analysis or hard data to refute that.

Sorry auto correct on my phone. Should be "under"

Well in totality of cost you are wrong.

As to my plugins, I told you all the 78 deal WILL NOT happen without MRO on the GEnX motors. Hmmm, look what we got.

OOfff 01-16-2026 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3992837)
Sorry auto correct on my phone. Should be "under"

Well in totality of cost you are wrong.

As to my plugins, I told you all the 78 deal WILL NOT happen without MRO on the GEnX motors. Hmmm, look what we got.

still no data or even reasoned analysis. for a person so proud of knowing what a fermi estimate is, you don’t seem willing to even try to present anything worth listening to beyond “bow before my supposed connections.”

but since you don’t even know within a hundred bucks an hour what a narrowbody captain makes, maybe your fermi estimate wouldn’t be worth much, either.

Khantahr 01-16-2026 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3992837)
As to my plugins, I told you all the 78 deal WILL NOT happen without MRO on the GEnX motors. Hmmm, look what we got.

The deal happening with the MRO deal does not mean that it wouldn't have happened without it.

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3992843)
still no data or even reasoned analysis. for a person so proud of knowing what a fermi estimate is, you don’t seem willing to even try to present anything worth listening to beyond “bow before my supposed connections.”

but since you don’t even know within a hundred bucks an hour what a narrowbody captain makes, maybe your fermi estimate wouldn’t be worth much, either.

You'll get the data soon enough.

Relax.

And again, you're wrong. This little charade has cost the company, in the months they've engaged in the practice, well over 100m. You can bank on it.

This is great leverage for us going into section 6 too.

Khantahr 01-16-2026 10:40 AM

$100 million a month is nigh impossible, unless you're including the double pay for who actually flew it as well, which isn't right.

I'll even assume $400/hr average pay rate, which is way higher than it actually is, and it still doesn't work.

100M / 400 = 250,000 hours paid out.
250,000 / 5.75 (I'm assuming a little higher than minimum day here) = 43,000+ DAYS paid out as 23M7 IN ONE MONTH. I do not believe that there are that many 23M7 payouts going out, no way. That's over 14,000 three day trips.

Most of those 23M7 trips are going out as double pay whether they use 23M7 or not. You can't count the double pay in the math of what 23M7 is costing the company, only the single pay to the harmed pilot.

OOfff 01-16-2026 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3992893)
You'll get the data soon enough.

Relax.

And again, you're wrong. This little charade has cost the company, in the months they've engaged in the practice, well over 100m. You can bank on it.

This is great leverage for us going into section 6 too.

and again, zero data nor reasoned analysis. a very valuable post

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3992907)
and again, zero data nor reasoned analysis. a very valuable post

Yawn.

Your trope is tiring.

Gone Flying 01-16-2026 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3992893)
You'll get the data soon enough.

Relax.

And again, you're wrong. This little charade has cost the company, in the months they've engaged in the practice, well over 100m. You can bank on it.

This is great leverage for us going into section 6 too.

Are you saying, that in additional pilot pay alone, 23m7 costs/payments cost over 100m per month, or 100m over the past several months combined. The second is completely believable, the first might be a stretch

the original FB post some have mentioned here is that m7 cost the company over 200m in December alone. I would definitely be hesitant to believe that without proof.

and if those numbers are accurate I hope ALPA can capitalize on it and get us a great contract quickly.

Gone Flying 01-16-2026 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3992837)
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As to my plugins, I told you all the 78 deal WILL NOT happen without MRO on the GEnX motors. Hmmm, look what we got.

I think anyone would have been able to safely say this. The rumor has been for years post covid that we did not order more AB WBs because RR would not give us the MRO rights we wanted. It’s a very well known fact we are very stubborn about the right to work on our engines. My guess is if AB/RR had been willing to wheel and deal on MRO issues 12-36 months ago we would not have a 787 order right now.

Whoopsmybad 01-17-2026 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3993105)
I think anyone would have been able to safely say this. The rumor has been for years post covid that we did not order more AB WBs because RR would not give us the MRO rights we wanted. It’s a very well known fact we are very stubborn about the right to work on our engines. My guess is if AB/RR had been willing to wheel and deal on MRO issues 12-36 months ago we would not have a 787 order right now.

It’s my understanding that the MRO is what took so long to order the MAXs. 35ks too.


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