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CaptNewBalance 01-16-2026 10:28 AM

Delta Pilot Intimidation
 
It appears that Delta has stepped up its pilot Intimidation this month. I've spoken with several people who have received sternly worded form letters from Flight Ops regarding their sick usage. None of these people have even hit the look back trigger nor have they been GFB.

beernutt 01-16-2026 10:34 AM

Pics or it didn’t happen.

tennisguru 01-16-2026 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by CaptNewBalance (Post 3992890)
It appears that Delta has stepped up its pilot Intimidation this month. I've spoken with several people who have received sternly worded form letters from Flight Ops regarding their sick usage. None of these people have even hit the look back trigger nor have they been GFB.

What are they threatening? Sick time is a PWA-provided benefit that pilots can avail themselves of if they are unfit for duty. They can whine and moan all they want but I don't see how they've really got any teeth as long as people are coloring within the lines.

On a related note, as I've said in other threads I think the suspension of sick lookback verification bugs the crap out of them to a high degree and will drive them to implement QS as quickly as they can.

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by CaptNewBalance (Post 3992890)
It appears that Delta has stepped up its pilot Intimidation this month. I've spoken with several people who have received sternly worded form letters from Flight Ops regarding their sick usage. None of these people have even hit the look back trigger nor have they been GFB.

Uniform police are out too. Seems they've drafted the standards pilots to do their bidding.

Welcome to 2026 and contract openers.

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3992898)
What are they threatening? Sick time is a PWA-provided benefit that pilots can avail themselves of if they are unfit for duty. They can whine and moan all they want but I don't see how they've really got any teeth as long as people are coloring within the lines.

On a related note, as I've said in other threads I think the suspension of sick lookback verification bugs the crap out of them to a high degree and will drive them to implement QS as quickly as they can.

Since when has the PWA meant anything to them?

"It's not a violation until the arbitrator says it is"

tennisguru 01-16-2026 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3992899)
Uniform police are out too. Seems they've drafted the standards pilots to do their bidding.

I hope the hats off campaign kicks on Jan 1 2027 (barring a TA), because that bugs the crap out of them too.

CBreezy 01-16-2026 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3992899)
Uniform police are out too. Seems they've drafted the standards pilots to do their bidding.

Welcome to 2026 and contract openers.

I heard there was a CPO standing in the lounge asking what kind of pants they were wearing. Sounds like an HR complaint waiting to happen.

Regarding the OP, I've heard it's at least 1000 people who have received letters

Reassigned4 01-16-2026 10:53 AM

This is all rich coming from a company who has shorted me several thousands of dollars over the last couple years from pay errors and illegal assignments. Sounds like stealing to me.

Scoop 01-16-2026 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3992905)
I heard there was a CPO standing in the lounge asking what kind of pants they were wearing. Sounds like an HR complaint waiting to happen.

Regarding the OP, I've heard it's at least 1000 people who have received letters


Atlanta?

Scoop

CBreezy 01-16-2026 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 3992908)
Atlanta?

Scoop

Yep. AND they were telling pilots to put on their hats and button their jacket before leaving the lounge area.

John Carr 01-16-2026 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3992905)
I heard there was a CPO standing in the lounge asking what kind of pants they were wearing. Sounds like an HR complaint waiting to happen.

https://youtube.com/shorts/-WSBiApf7...ZrID5kDKPEyr1T

HelloNewnan 01-16-2026 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3992897)
Pics or it didn’t happen.

It's a thing. Bud got one.

Viper25 01-16-2026 11:07 AM

What is triggering this? Is it certain parameters triggering it or is it literally anybody calling in sick after X date?

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3992911)
Yep. AND they were telling pilots to put on their hats and button their jacket before leaving the lounge area.

Even to go to grab Chick-fil-A? That's insane.

crewdawg 01-16-2026 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3992897)
Pics or it didn’t happen.


Just saw one posted on FB.



Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3992905)
I heard there was a CPO standing in the lounge asking what kind of pants they were wearing. Sounds like an HR complaint waiting to happen.

Regarding the OP, I've heard it's at least 1000 people who have received letters


I'd be like, I'm not quite sure, which brand is authorized this month? But seriously, even more of a reason to continue not going to ops.

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3992917)
What is triggering this? Is it certain parameters triggering it or is it literally anybody calling in sick after X date?

If it's like any of their past campaigns, no one outside of the offices will really know but suffice to say there will be some sort of tracker that we have no idea on the conditions.

beernutt 01-16-2026 11:15 AM

We must be running a really tight ship in all other facets of flight ops for sick calls and uniform compliance to be the priority and focus of our leaders.

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3992924)
We must be running a really tight ship in all other facets of flight ops for sick calls and uniform compliance to be the priority and focus of our leaders.

TYFAYD

//fillerz//

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3992921)


But seriously, even more of a reason to continue not going to ops.

^^No kidding^^

HelloNewnan 01-16-2026 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3992924)
We must be running a really tight ship in all other facets of flight ops for sick calls and uniform compliance to be the priority and focus of our leaders.

I think it's more like "A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine". I'll leave it to the student to fill in who is who.

ancman 01-16-2026 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3992924)
We must be running a really tight ship in all other facets of flight ops for sick calls and uniform compliance to be the priority and focus of our leaders.

This is exactly why multiple Flight Ops “leaders” need to be shown the door immediately.

Harrassing pilots for calling in sick, in the middle of a bad flu season, is regional-esque. It’s an attempt on management’s part to distract attention from the abysmal job they’re doing running an airline.

CBreezy 01-16-2026 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3992974)
This is exactly why multiple Flight Ops “leaders” need to be shown the door immediately.

Harrassing pilots for calling in sick, in the middle of a bad flu season, is regional-esque. It’s an attempt on management’s part to distract attention from the abysmal job they’re doing running an airline.

Not just calling in sick. One guy just said he is under 100 look back but was out twice because both his parents died.

ancman 01-16-2026 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3992975)
Not just calling in sick. One guy just said he is under 100 look back but was out twice because both his parents died.

If true, that’s pathetic. I would file a harassment complaint with HR against the manager who wrote the letter.

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3992976)
If true, that’s pathetic. I would file a harassment complaint with HR against the manager who wrote the letter.

I'd be curious what's the verbiage in the letters going out.

Rinaldi 01-16-2026 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3992905)
I heard there was a CPO standing in the lounge asking what kind of pants they were wearing. Sounds like an HR complaint waiting to happen.

Regarding the OP, I've heard it's at least 1000 people who have received letters

What kind of pants? Black.

TALPAtalker 01-16-2026 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Rinaldi;[url=tel:3992982
3992982[/url]]What kind of pants? Black.

“Where can I order my GPS Apparel <insert item here>?” (This is a serious question — what brand are we supposed to be wearing?)

tennisguru 01-16-2026 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3992981)
I'd be curious what's the verbiage in the letters going out.

Someone posted their copy on the scheduling FB page. Basically a bunch of corporate fluff about Delta people, how reliability affects our customers, then they drop in the threat that continued use of the absence program that does not align with the PWA or Delta policies may lead to further actuon, including discipline.

gloopy 01-16-2026 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3992984)
Someone posted their copy on the scheduling FB page. Basically a bunch of corporate fluff about Delta people, how reliability affects our customers, then they drop in the threat that continued use of the absence program that does not align with the PWA or Delta policies may lead to further actuon, including discipline.

what’s an absence program and what part of whatever that is doesn’t align with the PWA?

tennisguru 01-16-2026 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Rinaldi (Post 3992982)
What kind of pants? Black.

If someone, when asked, immediately removed said pants in order to provide proof of brand, would become an instant legend…

gloopy 01-16-2026 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3992987)
If someone, when asked, immediately removed said pants in order to provide proof of brand, would become an instant legend…

Captain Commando would be even more of a legend than Captain Happy.

m3113n1a1 01-16-2026 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3992987)
If someone, when asked, immediately removed said pants in order to provide proof of brand, would become an instant legend…

I legitimately don't know what brand my pants are.. they're the ones Delta sent me. So I would definitely have to remove them to look at the tag.

I urge anyone with access to FB to read the letter posted. It says these pilots attendance records are "being formally reviewed." Wtf is that? Is this a process with union involvement? Are they gonna go digging checking non rev, kcm, cass, and social media records? What is going on? This is worse than I ever saw even at the regionals. We're the ONLY major airline who treats pilots like this.

169todepot 01-16-2026 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3992924)
We must be running a really tight ship in all other facets of flight ops for sick calls and uniform compliance to be the priority and focus of our leaders.

Absolutely! We were properly staffed, had sufficient schedulers, and ran a very tight operation. They even got the uniform “refresh” perfect. Glad they have time to take care of the hanging Chad’s now.

Or they’re making people decline their CJO’s and go to Un-tied. They already made a bunch of poolees wait a year while we self celebrated, not sure why they were shocked that people wouldn’t put their careers on hold for the big D. “You’re ready when Delta is!”

Viper25 01-16-2026 02:08 PM

These letters are an excellent way to galvanize and unite the pilot group! Well done!

m3113n1a1 01-16-2026 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3992996)
These letters are an excellent way to galvanize and unite the pilot group! Well done!

It's blowing my mind that they thought it was a good idea. They're turning more and more loyal company pilots against them everyday.

Crown 01-16-2026 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3992905)
I heard there was a CPO standing in the lounge asking what kind of pants they were wearing.

I don't know. Your mom gave them to me this morning.

GutterGuard 01-16-2026 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3992998)
It's blowing my mind that they thought it was a good idea. They're turning more and more loyal company pilots against them everyday.

It's perfectly in line with the other blasts RG sends out about how the union is negotiating in bad faith and lying about how well the company is complying with grievance settlements, MOUs, PWA, etc.

Not in the least bit surprising. It is highly entertaining, though.

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3992984)
Someone posted their copy on the scheduling FB page. Basically a bunch of corporate fluff about Delta people, how reliability affects our customers, then they drop in the threat that continued use of the absence program that does not align with the PWA or Delta policies may lead to further actuon, including discipline.

Sick is in the PWA it's also a regulation (we all know that).

This smells like some lower level Smurf in flt ops got a little too far over their skies ( I'm hoping this is the case and that it didn't come from a SVP).

Hotel Kilo 01-16-2026 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3992990)
I legitimately don't know what brand my pants are.. they're the ones Delta sent me. So I would definitely have to remove them to look at the tag.

I urge anyone with access to FB to read the letter posted. It says these pilots attendance records are "being formally reviewed." Wtf is that? Is this a process with union involvement? Are they gonna go digging checking non rev, kcm, cass, and social media records? What is going on? This is worse than I ever saw even at the regionals. We're the ONLY major airline who treats pilots like this.

I thought you wore Lululemon.....or was that OOfff
😉

20Fathoms 01-16-2026 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3992905)
I heard there was a CPO standing in the lounge asking what kind of pants they were wearing. Sounds like an HR complaint waiting to happen.

Regarding the OP, I've heard it's at least 1000 people who have received letters

Guarantee most of those 1000 pilots are never handing out trading cards again. Or saying goodbye to pax or HVC cards or doing the countless little optional things that pilots with good morale can do to help the op.

Pilot morale is hard to put in a spreadsheet or quantify but it absolutely affects the operation big time. This is infuriating but it’s also just so so shortsighted.

Hopefully see some comms from ALPA on this soon.

Avgeek7248 01-16-2026 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 3993009)
Guarantee most of those 1000 pilots are never handing out trading cards again. Or saying goodbye to pax or HVC cards or doing the countless little optional things that pilots with good morale can do to help the op.

Pilot morale is hard to put in a spreadsheet or quantify but it absolutely affects the operation big time. This is infuriating but it’s also just so so shortsighted.

Hopefully see some comms from ALPA on this soon.

spin them APU’s and taxi like you’re American.


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