The touchscreen FMC’s bring on a ton of capability. Think 787 type box. It will be night and day..and touch screen isn’t the same as a phone. Your phone requires you to press on the screen. Jet type screens are using lasers or other systems to tell when your finger is going with very high precision. They work phenomenally . Garmin has flooded the jet markets with touch screens and it’s a non issue. I hope we still plan to retrofit the -900’s with touchscreens as we will get that awesome capability increase.

Please tell me they work better than the ACARS touch screens on the 75

The MAX touch screens are light years ahead of those.

Also the MD88/90 had the same as the 75 with regards to that ACARS screen thingy usually the reason they were glitchy wac due to dirt and stuff along the inside edge where the sensors were. A quick wipe around the inside edge of the box with a microfibre or lense cleaning cloth would usually do the trick to get it functional again

I’ve heard some muckity mucks in the 73 world verify it’s an issue. Debating on pressing on or delaying. While HUD is deferrable, the fleet has made it the default standard, so unleashing an entire sub fleet without it for possibly a long while presents an issue with fleet philosophical alignment.

Its way above most of our pay grades, other than the question of will it delay those airframes into revenue service or not.

I don't think deferral has anything to do with operating a subfleet with different equipment. But even if it did, the MEL is valid for what, 90 days?

Are they also antimicrobial? Just sayn' bring back sick call verification! Covid anyone? I hate cleaning fingerprints off screens there's no reason to touch them. Bah humbug.

Not that it would literally be on MEL or not. But that there is a rigorous debate taking place about what to do about it if it’s not ready when then plane is. The item is MEL-able, so it can clearly fly without it. However, it’s the left seat philosophical standard to use it often and there is a debate right now if it’s ok to simply unleash a rapidly growing sub category with an operationally philosophical difference that significant. I would be OK with it but it’s not my call obviously.

The 88 ACARS head was anti microbial. Not because of any special coating, but its operating temperature was only slightly below that of the surface of Venus. It was so hot the engineers had to place it at a steep enough angle to not be useable as a coffee cup warmer.

With the 10 being longer than a 9ER you’d think you’d want the HUD for tail strike awareness and prevention. Plus who knows how many CA’s have become HUD cripples ;).

Valid points. I don’t know what differences if any the 10 has for tail strike geometry. While it’s longer, is the gear taller? Different strut compressions? But you hit on a valid point in that the fleet is used to it. While it is deferrable, if it wasn’t ready when the plane was, what should we do about it if anything?

The AP, AT, APU and many other more obscure things are deferrable especially some equipment that’s optional. However a sub fleet with something fundamental to the rest that’s missing presents a concern that’s being discussed.

I can’t imagine an airline would take deliveries of 9 figure fully airworthy planes only to park them for months or years over something like that. We’ll see.

I hate that we're technically supposed to use it for every take off and landing. It should be our discretion unless operationally necessary kind of like SWA.

I remember, and it also had the added bonus of a semipermeable layer of crumbs and dust that kept you from actually touching the screen.

I have literally never been trained to fly referencing the PFD.

😂😂 I'm just lucky I was an FO on it first!

You call that luck? Get out there and do YOUR walkaround. :eek::D

MAX 10 has cleared its test points for the re-re-engineered cowl anti ice. It's with the FAA now for final approval. Once the FAA signs off on it (or sends them back to the drawing board for a third time) the final testing points can be cleared up which makes cert very possible in 2026.

good news. Any word if Boeing has started working on HUD certification yet?

Will be concurrent, I think we already talked about that already.

So if the plan was to ramp up hiring to cover the 100 jets we're getting, but we're already behind the curve and ramped up to maximum hiring, how's that going to play out?

we may have. I know we talked about how they might handle our max training.

either way, hopefully some nice movement on the 737 coming soon.

I don't know, that's CR.

my guess is these are a mix of growth and replacement airframes.

also, HK can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think an optimistic EIS is q4 2026. Still time to hire to catch up and cover deliveries.

supposedly 4 in January and EIS in March 2027.

aircraft will require sim training…. And not 1 single line pilot has received any. Timeline seems very optimistic.

they can schedule that as the time gets closer. While it would probably be easiest to do in association with CQ, to my knowledge nothing is stopping them from sending a whole base to max training over the course of a month or 2, then keeping max flying to bases that have completed training.

next CQ cycle.

As has been detailed above. Fleet has said they are going to add an extra day to next CQ cycle. If it starts in the fall, everyone will be trained by entry into service.

Correcto.


///fillerz

timeline for training or timeline for delivery from boeing?

Apparently q1 2027

Boeing news this morning regarding certification and deliveries:

https://investors.boeing.com/investo...s/default.aspx



Who wants to start the 777X rumors?

Yeah pretty much what I've been saying here.

Assuming the FAA signs off on the cowl ice fix, the remaining test points are going to fall pretty quick. We might see it late Q4 2026. It really all depends on the FAA signing off on Boeing's cowl ice fix. If Boeing has to go back to the drawing board, that's going to delay this program well into 2027.

1st Quarter, 2025.

A5S

BA revenue is 41.5% commercial airplanes. It's a lot but dropping consistantly.

Stephanie Pope has done some good work at BCA. She's cleaned house focused on quality and I have no doubts once Max is certified they will be pumping them out.

She was a good choice to head that division.

So BOS737 announced later this year to open 1Q27…

be careful what we wish for. Bos-snn/lgw/dub sounds miserable in that cockpit

Sounds more like a 321N route :)

heh. Neither is good, imo.

Agreed, let's leave ocean crossings to the WB. However, I wouldn't put it past them.