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Originally Posted by Ripinpeace
(Post 4006192)
Thats because… it’s rolling out this year? Going from one semi-damaged ViaSat satellite covering the America’s to three ViaSat satellites covering the globe- improving bandwidth, speed, and latency through ViaSat’s contracted purchase capacity of Telesat’s “Lightspeed” LEO system (LEO’s in 27’). It will work in tandem with ViaSat’s GEO system offering a hybrid GEO+LEO constellation.
It’ll have all the benefits of a LEO system like Starlink, and the benefits of GEO which are capable of broader coverage and higher throughput: ability to handle larger pools of connected passengers without sacrificing download speed; which is Starlink’s main weakness now- suffers compared to GEO once multiple users are logged on (this includes all ground based users and such). Point is, it’ll be the same or better when it’s all said and done. Guarantee it was better to be first to market with free WiFi in 2019 which adds to the reason why Delta continue to leads corporate/business travel today. United may have free WiFi at Delta’s scale going into 2028. They have no global coverage or domestic as only most of their RJ fleet is equipped, no mainline. I wonder if the threat of the “Kessler Syndrome”, an initial starlink collision, turning into a chain reaction of LEO space debris could ever be problematic amongst the Starlink, Amazon Kupier?, and Chinese clones mega constellations. The Viasats do have the benefit of altitude. Satellite collisions |
Originally Posted by Ripinpeace
(Post 4006192)
Thats because… it’s rolling out this year? Going from one semi-damaged ViaSat satellite covering the America’s to three ViaSat satellites covering the globe- improving bandwidth, speed, and latency through ViaSat’s contracted purchase capacity of Telesat’s “Lightspeed” LEO system (LEO’s in 27’). It will work in tandem with ViaSat’s GEO system offering a hybrid GEO+LEO constellation.
It’ll have all the benefits of a LEO system like Starlink, and the benefits of GEO which are capable of broader coverage and higher throughput: ability to handle larger pools of connected passengers without sacrificing download speed; which is Starlink’s main weakness now- suffers compared to GEO once multiple users are logged on (this includes all ground based users and such). Point is, it’ll be the same or better when it’s all said and done. Guarantee it was better to be first to market with free WiFi in 2019 which adds to the reason why Delta continue to leads corporate/business travel today. United may have free WiFi at Delta’s scale going into 2028. They have no global coverage or domestic as only most of their RJ fleet is equipped, no mainline. |
The Pacific gap was caused by a satellite fault in 2023. The replacement launched in November, and should be on line any day now
Based on the most recent launch (ViaSat-3 F2 in November 2025) and previous launches, it typically takes several months to bring a Viasat-3 satellite from launch to full commercial service. Here is the detailed timeline for bringing a ViaSat-3 satellite online:Launch to Geostationary Orbit: The satellite uses its all-electric propulsion system to travel to its final geostationary orbital slot, which takes several months.Deployment & Testing: After reaching its spot, it undergoes weeks of in-orbit testing of the bus and payload.Total Time to Service: For the ViaSat-3 F2 launched on November 13, 2025, the anticipated entry into service is early 2026 (roughly 3–4 months).Previous Example: The ViaSat-3 F1 (launched April 30, 2023) entered commercial service in August 2024 for aviation customers, though this was delayed by an antenna anomaly. |
If you think Viatsat is on the same level as Starlink you need your head checked. It’s not even close.
We have both and I can tell you that LEO internet is a total game changer. It’s like sitting in your living room gate to gate. Viasat isn't bad, but it's not what passengers are going to want once they've been exposed to something much better. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 4006583)
If you think Viatsat is on the same level as Starlink you need your head checked. It’s not even close.
We have both and I can tell you that LEO internet is a total game changer. It’s like sitting in your living room gate to gate. Viasat isn't bad, but it's not what passengers are going to want once they've been exposed to something much better. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 4006583)
If you think Viatsat is on the same level as Starlink you need your head checked. It’s not even close.
We have both and I can tell you that LEO internet is a total game changer. It’s like sitting in your living room gate to gate. Viasat isn't bad, but it's not what passengers are going to want once they've been exposed to something much better. Once all three GEO’s are installed and Lightspeed LEO’s are integrated it will be comparable to Starlink. Again, United has no Starlink on any mainline aircraft. Will be at least two to three years for the entire fleet to be equipped. We’ve been offering solid free WiFi for years. If a customer was choosing between carriers for WiFi we’ve had them for awhile now- between being tangled up in FF programs and CC sign ups, no one is leaving Delta for a momentary lapse in wifi comparability. If ViaSat + Telesat LEO’s end up being trash what’s to stop Delta from swapping to Starlink anyways? |
Mods can we split the Starlink vs Viasat talk off from the thread about C-suite level departures? Then maybe re-title the remaining thread that since even the nominally on-topic thread wandered way beyond GH.
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Originally Posted by flightlessbirds
(Post 4006648)
Mods can we split the Starlink vs Viasat talk off from the thread about C-suite level departures? Then maybe re-title the remaining thread that since even the nominally on-topic thread wandered way beyond GH.
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Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 4006583)
If you think Viatsat is on the same level as Starlink you need your head checked. It’s not even close.
We have both and I can tell you that LEO internet is a total game changer. It’s like sitting in your living room gate to gate. Viasat isn't bad, but it's not what passengers are going to want once they've been exposed to something much better. But for a commerical airliner where at people are browsing Instagram and watching Netflix, they won't be able to tell the difference between Viasat-3 and Starlink. |
Originally Posted by Planetrain
(Post 4006311)
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I wonder if the threat of the “Kessler Syndrome”, an initial starlink collision, turning into a chain reaction of LEO space debris could ever be problematic amongst the Starlink, Amazon Kupier?, and Chinese clones mega constellations. The Viasats do have the benefit of altitude. Satellite collisions https://www.ualberta.ca/en/youalbert...4wqrc0o7a.jpeg |
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