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AverageGPA 02-17-2026 07:52 AM

Starlink vs. Viasat Thread Drift
 

Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3992221)
IMHO USAA went from industry leading tech in the early 2000s to industry lagging a decade or two later. I suspect we will suffer a similar fate, although we are starting from a lagging position already. Not looking forward to our new IT management.

I’m late to this thread, but just want to chime in on this topic specifically and say we’re already in the “industry lagging tech” phase, and at a critical level. Compared to
our counterparts at United, we are being lapped.

immolated 02-17-2026 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 4004436)
I hear rave reviews of Starlink on United jets.

Seriously hope the top brass are aware of this.

We really missed the boat on Starlink. SpaceX launched their 10,000th satellite this year. Meanwhile Via-sat's single replacement satellite over the pacific still isn't up and running. Imagine paying $$$$ for D1 and having no wifi for 10 hours. Going on several years now.

ancman 02-17-2026 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by immolated (Post 4004439)
We really missed the boat on Starlink. SpaceX launched their 10,000th satellite this year. Meanwhile Via-sat's single replacement satellite over the pacific still isn't up and running. Imagine paying $$$$ for D1 and having no wifi for 10 hours. Going on several years now.

This will become the Microsoft Surface 2.0 — on a larger, customer-facing scale.

Management’s hubris will prevent them from conceding that United had a better idea than them for years to come. By the time their successors take over and reevaluate our Wi-Fi provider, the damage will have already been done.

Flyweight 02-17-2026 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 4004444)
This will become the Microsoft Surface 2.0 — on a larger, customer-facing scale.

Management’s hubris will prevent them from conceding that United had a better idea than them for years to come. By the time their successors take over and reevaluate our Wi-Fi provider, the damage will have already been done.

i have to think its cost driven. Viasat is installed on almost all our aircraft, and starlink isnt cheap. Viasat will work if its fast enough, or our competitors dont opt for thr $$$$ plan.

ancman 02-17-2026 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Flyweight (Post 4004468)
i have to think its cost driven. Viasat is installed on almost all our aircraft, and starlink isnt cheap. Viasat will work if its fast enough, or our competitors dont opt for thr $$$$ plan.

If Delta’s goal is to offer the most premium product in the industry, then we need to offer the most premium WiFi in the industry. Few things are as important to customers as quality WiFi, particularly HVACs.

Currently, Viasat is decidedly second-tier. Whether it can ever come close to Starlink remains to be seen.

Flyweight 02-17-2026 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 4004491)
If Delta’s goal is to offer the most premium product in the industry, then we need to offer the most premium WiFi in the industry. Few things are as important to customers as quality WiFi, particularly HVACs.

Currently, Viasat is decidedly second-tier. Whether it can ever come close to Starlink remains to be seen.

agree. filler.

Nantonaku 02-17-2026 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 4004491)
If Delta’s goal is to offer the most premium product in the industry, then we need to offer the most premium WiFi in the industry. Few things are as important to customers as quality WiFi, particularly HVACs.

Currently, Viasat is decidedly second-tier. Whether it can ever come close to Starlink remains to be seen.

Remember the big conversation we had years ago about this in here? It was around the time of peak [mod edit]. A lot of people thought it was risky doing business with Elon. It wasn’t a good argument at the time and hasn’t aged well. Elon wasn’t going to have power personally to turn off our WiFi. We are doing business with a company. It would be like being scared of buying a ticket on Delta because you are concerned Es is going to decide to not let you on the plane. But here we are, we will never catch up and will always operate an inferior product. The fuel savings from the smaller antenna pays for itself in days. The Viasat bulge is absurd.

CBreezy 02-18-2026 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 4004491)
If Delta’s goal is to offer the most premium product in the industry, then we need to offer the most premium WiFi in the industry. Few things are as important to customers as quality WiFi, particularly HVACs.

Currently, Viasat is decidedly second-tier. Whether it can ever come close to Starlink remains to be seen.

Delta's goal to be the most premium stems only for what they believe people will pay a premium for, and that's reliability. Yes, we are failing at that.. Are there some niche businessmen that want 300mbs to their personal device? I assume, sure. But we haven't had the most expensive or best anything for at least the last two decades. We still have 717s, buy used airplanes like a redneck lottery winner and have ALWAYS been subpar in tech. Is our lack of Wi-Fi in the Pacific a problem? Yeah, I'll concede. But it's also one of the lowest yield markets.

crewdawg 02-18-2026 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 4004513)
Delta's goal to be the most premium stems only for what they believe people will pay a premium for, and that's reliability. Yes, we are failing at that.. Are there some niche businessmen that want 300mbs to their personal device? I assume, sure. But we haven't had the most expensive or best anything for at least the last two decades. We still have 717s, buy used airplanes like a redneck lottery winner and have ALWAYS been subpar in tech. Is our lack of Wi-Fi in the Pacific a problem? Yeah, I'll concede. But it's also one of the lowest yield markets.


Even the Pacific is scheduled to have coverage after the launch of the Viasat-3 launch in 2Q26.

PilotJ3 02-18-2026 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 4004532)
Even the Pacific is scheduled to have coverage after the launch of the Viasat-3 launch in 2Q26.

If it doesn’t debt damaged.


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