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FL370esq 03-08-2026 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 4010442)
No joke - our fleet bulletin suggested that pilots screenshot widget WX before leaving the gate to reference in flight for “long term planning”…

Who knew the B717 and the A350 fleets would have the same "best practice?" 🤣

FangsF15 03-08-2026 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 4010442)
...No joke - our fleet bulletin suggested that pilots screenshot widget WX before leaving the gate to reference in flight for “long term planning”…

Good grief. I know the fleet captains are just dealing with the cards they are dealt, but do they even hear themselves talking? Meanwhile, a C-172 can have Starlink in its back window...

KSCessnaDriver 03-08-2026 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 4010420)
Lots of A's have bailed (myself included) with almost zero backfills, they probably listed these 10 spots because they needed to balance staffing for summer. They've been talking about LPV and Wifi for a few years, but that can keeps getting kicked down the road and I wouldn't be surprised to see it get kicked again...and again. I had planned on staying for the long haul, but saw the writing on the wall and didn't care to keep sliding backward in seniority as junior pilots bailed.

FWIW, I flew an airplane the other day that had been the test ship for LPV, only realized by looking back in the logbook. They did some test flying with it in the experimental category, so it's at least progressing to the point that it's flown now. Don't know any more than that at this point.

demon llama 03-08-2026 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 4010506)
FWIW, I flew an airplane the other day that had been the test ship for LPV, only realized by looking back in the logbook. They did some test flying with it in the experimental category, so it's at least progressing to the point that it's flown now. Don't know any more than that at this point.

The other day out of Atlanta I heard a “Delta 6969 Experimental” call sign. Is that maybe a reason why they’d carry the experimental tag on?

crewdawg 03-08-2026 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by GutterGuard (Post 4010423)
More planes keep showing up with roof wifi antennas. Airplane ain't going anywhere in the next 2 years. Lots of news in here from people who aren't even on the fleet. If you're a 717B, it's a no-brainer to upgrade (if that's what you want). Enjoy a VD/MD if it comes...but the airplane is doing just fine. Read a newsletter if you don't believe me.


It going away and DTW shrinking are two different things.



Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 4010491)
Good grief. I know the fleet captains are just dealing with the cards they are dealt, but do they even hear themselves talking? Meanwhile, a C-172 can have Starlink in its back window...


Ya, but now they have to pay the big bucks to use on their 172....argh Starlink!!! :D

KSCessnaDriver 03-08-2026 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by demon llama (Post 4010541)
The other day out of Atlanta I heard a “Delta 6969 Experimental” call sign. Is that maybe a reason why they’d carry the experimental tag on?

Could be. I think they went up to GSO and back, but I couldn't bet on it. It's been a few days since I flew that jet at this point.

Lastchance2 03-08-2026 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 4010420)
Lots of A's have bailed (myself included) with almost zero backfills, they probably listed these 10 spots because they needed to balance staffing for summer.

If they can't shrink the category organically (via retirements, VD's, etc), will they trickle in a few MD's in each AE? Or, would they prefer to carry a few extra captains instead of sending out MD's? It'd probably save them a few bucks to shrink it naturally (no seat locks to break and less moves to pay for).. But then again, they're paying to train 10 new captains in this March AE.

If you were a betting man, what's the chance that we see DTW 717 close within the next 12-18 months?

Boatbuilder 03-08-2026 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Lastchance2 (Post 4010648)
If they can't shrink the category organically (via retirements, VD's, etc), will they trickle in a few MD's in each AE? Or, would they prefer to carry a few extra captains instead of sending out MD's? It'd probably save them a few bucks to shrink it naturally (no seat locks to break and less moves to pay for).. But then again, they're paying to train 10 new captains in this March AE.

If you were a betting man, what's the chance that we see DTW 717 close within the next 12-18 months?

Without a black swan event (Iran?) it won’t happen that quick. Personally I’d like to see it shut down in November. Last time I rode a dying jet to the grave (88-90) it was 6 months at home with pay until they could get me into a sim for a new ride. I retire in May of ‘27, so go ahead, make my year.
Seriously though it won’t be that quick. Not enough metal to replace it available, but I can hope.

magiccarpet 03-08-2026 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 4010481)
Who knew the B717 and the A350 fleets would have the same "best practice?" 🤣


There was a captain on the 717 using ForFlgiht and a Sentry to get better weather service. Been a couple of years and I think he moved on. But I must say it was pretty nice.

FangsF15 03-08-2026 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Lastchance2 (Post 4010648)
If they can't shrink the category organically (via retirements, VD's, etc), will they trickle in a few MD's in each AE? Or, would they prefer to carry a few extra captains instead of sending out MD's? It'd probably save them a few bucks to shrink it naturally (no seat locks to break and less moves to pay for).. But then again, they're paying to train 10 new captains in this March AE.

If you were a betting man, what's the chance that we see DTW 717 close within the next 12-18 months?

Highly doubtful they will trickle MD’s. It will be all of a sudden…


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