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Originally Posted by SVCTA
(Post 4026423)
I forget who it was that replied to me, "Yeah, well, I'm coming for THEIR lunch!" when I warned that UAL was coming with some passion for ours. It's foolish to disregard them as anything other than a true competitor who's stated policy was to (parahprasing here) "spend some money and kick a little a**." Kirby may be tired of antagonizing American. Who does that leave?
Meanwhile, we won't spend a dime to improve and we keep everyone in the dark about the 'plan'. He's over there running a modern airline. We need to pay attention. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 4026434)
I couldn't care less how much money United or American made because there is absolutely nothing I could do or say that would change anything. I'll continue to show up, fly my contract, and hope the people who get paid to make decisions continue to make us profitable. I hope United and American do well because that means, hopefully, their pilots do well which means we will do well as a pilot group.
Aside from that I fly the contract 4-5 days a week anymore and just absorb the crew swaps and delays. Four days, four FOs again this week. It was better not all that long ago. I hope we get those days back. |
Originally Posted by SVCTA
(Post 4026440)
I think you missed the greater point. It’s all like “two fleas arguing over who owns the dog they live on.” I also hope that our people who can do something about our operations do so. The numbers are merely indicators of something increasingly dysfunctional over here. It’s the only reason anyone cares. They may as well be eggplant emojis. Ours are just turning in to something else….the gummster fire continues. Feel the churn!
Aside from that I fly the contract 4-5 days a week anymore and just absorb the crew swaps and delays. Four days, four FOs again this week. It was better not all that long ago. I hope we get those days back. I like it, imma steal that. Good lanyard fodder too. |
Originally Posted by ebl14
(Post 4026425)
I love how many people are surprised that United is making money. Too many deltoids think the world revolves around Atlanta and every other airline must be inferior. This attitude has permeated the 4th floor and led to a sort of cancer that requires surgery to remove the malignant leaders.
The real benefits of Trainer will be revealed in Q2-4 where you will see DL pull far ahead on United in profits. UA’s unregulated growth is biting them now with fuel, SFO and ORD capacity reductions, and FA TA costs (technician contract still do). Plus, they carry $31B of debt to Delta’s $13B and continue to be a non-investment grade carrier. Trainer, AMEX, our stronger JV/partner ties (LH Group melting down in Europe currently vs AF+KLM), the growing MRO business, hub dominance (pricing power during downturns), and continued investment in premium will grow the gap from DL’s competitors. Revenue diversification will win out. Delta is hemorrhaging millions in premium payout and still out performing the rest. Once corrected the performance gap will continue to grow, once again. Some people think our “image” is damaged- it isn’t. We just leaped to #1 per ACSI above WN. Planes are full, enhancements to the product, air and ground, are being made continuously, and the NB/WB/pilot group is all growing. |
Originally Posted by Ripinpeace
(Post 4026467)
They lost Q1 to us, unlike in 2025. That’s competitive regression. Mind you, they lost Q2-4 and full year results last year too (and will do so this year too).
The real benefits of Trainer will be revealed in Q2-4 where you will see DL pull far ahead on United in profits. UA’s unregulated growth is biting them now with fuel, SFO and ORD capacity reductions, and FA TA costs (technician contract still do). Plus, they carry $31B of debt to Delta’s $13B and continue to be a non-investment grade carrier. Trainer, AMEX, our stronger JV/partner ties (LH Group melting down in Europe currently vs AF+KLM), the growing MRO business, hub dominance (pricing power during downturns), and continued investment in premium will grow the gap from DL’s competitors. Revenue diversification will win out. Delta is hemorrhaging millions in premium payout and still out performing the rest. Once corrected the performance gap will continue to grow, once again. Some people think our “image” is damaged- it isn’t. We just leaped to #1 per ACSI above WN. Planes are full, enhancements to the product, air and ground, are being made continuously, and the NB/WB/pilot group is all growing. That's not a premium product. |
Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
(Post 4026477)
We're dead last in cancellations for some time now.
That's not a premium product. |
Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
(Post 4026477)
We're dead last in cancellations for some time now.
That's not a premium product. Are we first or are we last cancelations? Oh well, if you're not first, you're last! |
Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
(Post 4026477)
We're dead last in cancellations for some time now.
That's not a premium product. Also folks, the true number that matters is PTIX, because that determines profit sharing. Delta Q1 PTIX was slightly higher. Everything else is just noise unless you're an airline analyst |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 4026506)
We will be the only airline giving a non trivial amount of Profit sharing next year, thanks to the Refinery.
Also folks, the true number that matters is PTIX, because that determines profit sharing. Delta Q1 PTIX was slightly higher. Everything else is just noise unless you're an airline analyst |
Originally Posted by Bazinga
(Post 4026512)
do you think the family of 4 on vacation having their flights canceled within 7 hours of departure cares a single iota what our PS may or may not be next year? read the room a little.
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