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TED74 05-03-2026 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 4031187)
I don’t know your situation so I am not judging you or saying I wouldn’t do the exact same thing and call out sick for all those hours if I was in your position…

With that said, 80 hours in 4 months is generally considered a lot of sick time.

Let’s all take a moment to read what the PWA actually says. And for FWIW, the CPO didn’t follow the contract for my GFB either.

14. F. 4.
When individual circumstances exist that give the Company a good faith basis to inquire regarding the medical reason for a pilot’s use of sick leave, such pilot may be required to state the nature of their sickness in general terms to their Chief Pilot. At the time of notification, the pilot will be provided all of the specific reason(s) in support of the Company’s good-faith basis inquiry. Following such discussion, the Chief Pilot may:

a. consider the current sick occurrence to be verified, or

b. require the pilot to verify their sickness by providing a doctor’s certificate, provided the pilot has been directed to do so within three calendar days after the start date of the sick occurrence.

Note: Such individual circumstances may not be derived solely from the amount of sick leave used by the pilot or the frequency of their sick occurrences.

PositiveRate20 05-04-2026 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 4031352)
Let’s all take a moment to read what the PWA actually says. And for FWIW, the CPO didn’t follow the contract for my GFB either.

14. F. 4.
When individual circumstances exist that give the Company a good faith basis to inquire regarding the medical reason for a pilot’s use of sick leave, such pilot may be required to state the nature of their sickness in general terms to their Chief Pilot. At the time of notification, the pilot will be provided all of the specific reason(s) in support of the Company’s good-faith basis inquiry. Following such discussion, the Chief Pilot may:

a. consider the current sick occurrence to be verified, or

b. require the pilot to verify their sickness by providing a doctor’s certificate, provided the pilot has been directed to do so within three calendar days after the start date of the sick occurrence.

Note: Such individual circumstances may not be derived solely from the amount of sick leave used by the pilot or the frequency of their sick occurrences.

GFB’s need to go. Period.

AirCoxswain 05-04-2026 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by PositiveRate20 (Post 4031437)
GFB’s need to go. Period.

Seconded...the company has proven it can't be trusted to have an actual basis. It was sold as "You called in sick and then, we saw on social media you went to some event." and we got "You called in sick while on reserve."

crewdawg 05-04-2026 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by AirCoxswain (Post 4031549)
Seconded...the company has proven it can't be trusted to have an actual basis. It was sold as "You called in sick and then, we saw on social media you went to some event." and we got "You called in sick while on reserve."


So many other things that need to be addressed that impact nearly every pilot on the daily.
A GFB is something that may impact a pilot only a few times a career, if at all.

Prospect 05-04-2026 06:56 AM

It will be difficult for me to vote yes on anything with language that makes things optional or relies on trust for the company. "With mutual consent" language, using the words "may" or "should", or relying on a mutual understanding during negotiations that isn't explicitly stated in the PWA... all that needs to be ironed out. Company has proven they cannot be trusted to "honor their deals".

CX500T 05-04-2026 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 4031553)
So many other things that need to be addressed that impact nearly every pilot on the daily.
A GFB is something that may impact a pilot only a few times a YEAR if not more

fixed it for you. Of course Base dependent.

SideStickMonkey 05-04-2026 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 4031597)
fixed it for you. Of course Base dependent.

There are always outliers.

Been here almost a decade and haven't had even one GFB. That's being in multiple bases.

Whoopsmybad 05-04-2026 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 4031609)
There are always outliers.

Been here almost a decade and haven't had even one GFB. That's being in multiple bases.

Same. But I probably just put that evil on myself Ricky Bobby.

CX500T 05-04-2026 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 4031609)
There are always outliers.

Been here almost a decade and haven't had even one GFB. That's being in multiple bases.

3X GFBs in last year. One (right before going on vacation) I could maybe, possibly see. (Blew a tendon in elbow)

Year before 2x plus 2x "wellness checls"

I run probably a 60-70% GFB chance on a sick call. My first 6 years here, ONE when I woke up in the crash pad on SC (so 1 mile from JFK) With a nasty sinus infection. That one actually was handled on phone (sounded like crap) and CP authorized nonrev home because "you're aren't gonna get better in the crash pad"

m3113n1a1 05-04-2026 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 4031637)
My first 6 years here, ONE when I woke up in the crash pad on SC (so 1 mile from JFK) With a nasty sinus infection. That one actually was handled on phone (sounded like crap) and CP authorized nonrev home because "you're aren't gonna get better in the crash pad"

Ah, the good old days when the CPO was reasonable and treated us like adults.


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