Cancel/sick/GFB thread drift
 

I think you just uncovered the reason for 156 cancellations today. Moving May 1st back where it belongs might be one of several small steps to restoring the operation.

156 cancellations?

It must be those greedy pilots refusing to pick up even more extra flying.

The system stopped rewarding greed. RIP banked PB. We're up to 217 now.

I had to call in sick for a 2 day, 6 hours before report. All 4 legs canceled, and I got GFB'd.

Thank you for not flying sick. 17,000 pilots appreciate it.

Called out sick for CQ. Wouldn't have made it to CQ on scheduled COBUS flight anyway.

GFB in May is a powerful thing. For you.

That Sick call is now verified/ does not count against QHCP, cannot be GFBd again on it. Whether you’re back in 2 days or…… June. Something else happens in June as well… depending on how much sick time you have, make sure you are 100% healthy before you return to work.

I guess my point is I gave them ample time to get a healthy butt in the seat and they can't make it happen. But sure they can call me and demand a letter. I've only used 80 hours of sick this sick year, but I'm the problem.

That would be really ****ty if that stomach bug was persistent and didn't get better until all of the rest of your sick time ran out sometime in June or July. At least you wouldn't use any of your 2026-27 sick time getting better. You'd just keep using your 2025-26 time until your stomach fully healed, or you ran out of it. Which might take a while since you've only used 80 hours.

On a totally separate topic, at least the GFB you already got would cover all of that sick time and remove it from any future look back requirements. Even if it was for another 100+ hours.

Hopefully you get better for your next trip though, bc it would suck to be sick for a month or two.

Or pick up a bunch of trips off the swap board which you then unfortunately can’t make due to unexpected extended ailment…

Sounds like some racketeering going on here.😂

I just hope he feels better soonish.

Am I understanding this correctly, if a sick occurrence in May spills over into June, the sick time continues to be deducted from the previous year’s sick bank until well? Learn something new every day.

And yes, thank you GG for not flying sick despite harassment from the company. And hope he/she feels better soon.

14 D 2 exception. Clearly spelled out in the PWA.

Did they say what was the reason for the GFB? Like what triggered it? Calling out sick within a certain amount of time of a trip or something?

I didn't answer the phone. He left a voicemail but didn't give a reason. Either way, they immediately sent an email to my work and personal email saying "per our conversation, I am requesting..."

I know they can't technically do that, but I really didn't want to get into it with them. I already wasn't feeling well, I just wanted to be left alone at home. So I got on Galileo and had them to write a note through a 5 minute chat.

I’m pretty sure, per the contract, they are REQUIRED to give you the reason for the call. So now the CPO is violating the PWA as well.

Exactly. But that was my experience. It's kinda exhausting having to battle every facet of this company.

I don’t know your situation so I am not judging you or saying I wouldn’t do the exact same thing and call out sick for all those hours if I was in your position…

With that said, 80 hours in 4 months is generally considered a lot of sick time.

He said “sick year,” which is June - May if Im not mistaken.

We're in month 11 of the sick year.

Haven't you been here for years and years..yet you don't even know when our sick year is?

80 hours in the last sick year, so 11 months.

iahflyr (who isn't me, similar username) must think our sick leave year started in Jan.

I think he just misread what I said. Easy enough mistake to make.

I don't make reading or writing mistakes, though. I went to the Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good...

GFB right now is like hitting the jackpot.

SICK YEAR. I beg to differ

That could be as little as four 4-day trips, with only one day actually sick per trip. Sick on day one for whatever reason, better on day two through four. Thats averaging once per quarter with only four sick days. That is not hard to do. For anyone saying 80 hours of sick usage is a lot, I disagree.

In some BES one sick occurrence could wipe out a 49 hour 6 day trip.

How DARE you call in sick for that much time. Preposterous

Let’s all take a moment to read what the PWA actually says. And for FWIW, the CPO didn’t follow the contract for my GFB either.

14. F. 4.
When individual circumstances exist that give the Company a good faith basis to inquire regarding the medical reason for a pilot’s use of sick leave, such pilot may be required to state the nature of their sickness in general terms to their Chief Pilot. At the time of notification, the pilot will be provided all of the specific reason(s) in support of the Company’s good-faith basis inquiry. Following such discussion, the Chief Pilot may:

a. consider the current sick occurrence to be verified, or

b. require the pilot to verify their sickness by providing a doctor’s certificate, provided the pilot has been directed to do so within three calendar days after the start date of the sick occurrence.

Note: Such individual circumstances may not be derived solely from the amount of sick leave used by the pilot or the frequency of their sick occurrences.

GFB’s need to go. Period.

Seconded...the company has proven it can't be trusted to have an actual basis. It was sold as "You called in sick and then, we saw on social media you went to some event." and we got "You called in sick while on reserve."

So many other things that need to be addressed that impact nearly every pilot on the daily.
A GFB is something that may impact a pilot only a few times a career, if at all.

It will be difficult for me to vote yes on anything with language that makes things optional or relies on trust for the company. "With mutual consent" language, using the words "may" or "should", or relying on a mutual understanding during negotiations that isn't explicitly stated in the PWA... all that needs to be ironed out. Company has proven they cannot be trusted to "honor their deals".

fixed it for you. Of course Base dependent.

There are always outliers.

Been here almost a decade and haven't had even one GFB. That's being in multiple bases.

Same. But I probably just put that evil on myself Ricky Bobby.

3X GFBs in last year. One (right before going on vacation) I could maybe, possibly see. (Blew a tendon in elbow)

Year before 2x plus 2x "wellness checls"

I run probably a 60-70% GFB chance on a sick call. My first 6 years here, ONE when I woke up in the crash pad on SC (so 1 mile from JFK) With a nasty sinus infection. That one actually was handled on phone (sounded like crap) and CP authorized nonrev home because "you're aren't gonna get better in the crash pad"

Ah, the good old days when the CPO was reasonable and treated us like adults.