Yeah I suppose that is true if you're at the top of the sick leave allotment chart. For newer folks, especially new hires involuntarily on reserve without much sick time, would be a nice thing to have. If you've got 250 sick hours per year, yeah blowing 4 on a reserve day isn't a big deal haha.

The sick timeline I referenced could be done by someone on 4th year pay, which is 120 hours. You could get dang close on 3rd year pay at 100 hours. Our sick leave accumulation happens fast. At top out sick leave, you could do way more than that, I just posted what could be done without a sick note.

it seems like a nice perk, but given the amount of sick time we get it just seems unnecessary. Also our reserves are usually used pretty good right now so I’m not sure how much it would actually help.

as someone else said we don’t do SC only lines here and the max number of SCs you can be assigned in a month is 6. While contractually they can be 12 hours long, I’ve never seen one longer than 9 hours my whole time here and haven’t seen one longer than 6 in about 2 years.

if, and that’s a big if, it were to be implemented here without getting rid of our current accrual , it would likely still be treated as a sick call, just without the time debited against your account, but with the CPO still having the ability to follow up. You are absolutely right our CPO would take a dim view of calling out for the reasons your mentioned.

I’ll just clarify that in certain categories it is very common to see a 2359 - 0859 SC period to cover early morning departures. But you are correct that outside that all the other periods are 6 hours.

You got me wondering and I had some time to look at the PWA. Even on year two, you could blow up a four day block of reserve every other month and not exhaust your sick. Then year three hits and that number jumps to seven or eight times a year. As said above, sick if needed sounds like a nice perk, but aside from maybe your first year, I doubt it's needed all that much. Now, if for some stupid reason we decided to give a concession and switch to a sick leave program like everyone else, then I'd be on team sick if needed. Even the GFB complaints are severely overblown. Do I think it's dumb, sure, but do I think it's a big deal, not at all. Online Dr note and your golden with a fully verified sick leave where you're free to take as much time to recover as you need. Aside from CXT, they're an extremely rare event anyway.

If we tidy up everything else in the contract that impacts nearly everyone all the time, then sure, blow some capital on trying to get rid of something they may never happen to most of the pilot group.

Don’t forget that reserves can get a “free” day when they call in well before 0600. So a 4 day block can be taken out with only ~13.5 hours of sick time if you call in well early on day 4.

Yup, that is accounted for in my numbers.

I actually have had a VERY helpful ACP work with me this month when I got in ER for dehydration level sick and had some appointments with a hard to get into specialist that came up after bidding and the reserve grid didn't allow moving days. (I'm down to 15ish hours sick)

He emailed me a bunch of direct contacts to deal with insurance and actually knew the sick year transition stuff very well. Preposted sick, and can PD more days if needed to get me out of this sick year. Also "don't fly of not well, but you need to work at least one trip/RES day to reset if out sick when year swaps over"

Credit where credit is due. He's been very helpful.

There's also some odd math when you are sick on a PR day that I can't fully explain, but have seen. Like, if you have a PR ending at 1500 and swipe sick before it ends, you don't get charged ANY sick for the day with the PR. So for 4-day stretch that starts with a PR, if you're sick on day 1 and well before 0600 on day 4, you only get charged 2 LC days worth of sick.

Ive heard rumor some of the sick abuse cited by the company is swiping in just before 0600. Something something “it may be contractual but isn’t right” was apparently their opinion.

this is the way. When the company treats us with respect we incline to return the favor

Funny how that works…

I’ll double that rumor. Not a res bidder, but my understanding is call out sick on X day 2 prior to first res day, call in prior to 6am on first LC day, zero sick used, first day of res now unusable.

Can the CPO GFB if sick on an X-day? Does swipe for sick/well work on an X-day or does it take a phone call? That's a RES ninja move that even the racketeers could learn from.

Harder to get a gfb as a line holder. We all know reserve pilots can’t be trusted….

Im not the ninja you are looking for…. Your questions are beyond my knowledge!

A friend who had MiCrew open just tried to swipe on an X day. Doesn’t work. However, you may swipe to sick on a LC that is in the future, while you are still off. Not exactly sure where the “SICK” is place on your line - Buddy told me she’s not willing to press-to-test this week.

There’s quite a few bad cases of rectal glaucoma going around right now. It really flares up on sunny 70 F days. I hope that friend doesn’t catch it on a X day later this month and need to swipe.



PSA:
DON’T FORGET TO CALL YOUR MOTHERS TOMORROW

You can't swipe sick/well on an X-day. You have to click on your next LC day and swipe sick/well. And yes, you can get a GFB right then and there, even if you're on an X day they can still call you.

seeing as how i got gfb’d for calling out sick at 10pm burning a full sick day, 20 hours in advance of a SC in order to specifically “do the right thing”, and give them 18+ to get another reserve on the SC window, my GAS factor is zero. Oh and they unilaterally shut off 10+ PB usage so…………yeah

No good deed goes unpunished

Thanks DG. Is the screenname a reference to C130? P3? E2?

My man flew the CV-580.

May sick usage
 

If sick leave starts in May but continues into June (without a call in well), which sick hours are utilized for the June trip(s).

25-26 sick year

Anyone know an online doctor service that will write a note (Delta’s specific form)? Last time I tried an online doctor they refused to use Delta’s format and I wasted $100.

Are we required to use that form? I didn't and had no issue with a GFB.

Good question. The Chief who called me was simply out to get people so I don’t trust a thing he said. His reasoning was “you called in sick 2 days AFTER a holiday.” I only had 40 hours of look back. Left me an angry voicemail demanding a note before I even talked to him and he emailed me the form to fill out.

Ten years of using little sick time and I still got treated poorly. From that day forward my wife has forced me to use every sick hour we get. In other words, those who don’t abuse the sick policy will still get accused of abusing it so why not just use it all.

Admittedly, I didn't look hard, but I didn't see anything that requires you to use their form. I'd just submit what you have, as well as the bill of $100 to get reimbursed. Also remember that if you're still out, that sickness is verified, no matter how long it takes you to recover.




Unfortunately, I'm not surprised and suspect it will get worse during negotiations. What base?

FYI, if you do preposted sick, the CPO is turning it into a PD/S at the moment. (I had a need for a hard to get into specialist come up, and only day available was last day of a RES block)

That does not sound like a PD/S by the PWA (“ordinary preventative care”).

I would speak to your rep about that. They are supposed to call you in person and explain the nature of the GFB call. There is no requirement to use the form. The note you send only has to contain the items listed in the PWA.

Galileo

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