Yeah I suppose that is true if you're at the top of the sick leave allotment chart. For newer folks, especially new hires involuntarily on reserve without much sick time, would be a nice thing to have. If you've got 250 sick hours per year, yeah blowing 4 on a reserve day isn't a big deal haha.

The sick timeline I referenced could be done by someone on 4th year pay, which is 120 hours. You could get dang close on 3rd year pay at 100 hours. Our sick leave accumulation happens fast. At top out sick leave, you could do way more than that, I just posted what could be done without a sick note.

it seems like a nice perk, but given the amount of sick time we get it just seems unnecessary. Also our reserves are usually used pretty good right now so I’m not sure how much it would actually help.

as someone else said we don’t do SC only lines here and the max number of SCs you can be assigned in a month is 6. While contractually they can be 12 hours long, I’ve never seen one longer than 9 hours my whole time here and haven’t seen one longer than 6 in about 2 years.

if, and that’s a big if, it were to be implemented here without getting rid of our current accrual , it would likely still be treated as a sick call, just without the time debited against your account, but with the CPO still having the ability to follow up. You are absolutely right our CPO would take a dim view of calling out for the reasons your mentioned.

I’ll just clarify that in certain categories it is very common to see a 2359 - 0859 SC period to cover early morning departures. But you are correct that outside that all the other periods are 6 hours.

You got me wondering and I had some time to look at the PWA. Even on year two, you could blow up a four day block of reserve every other month and not exhaust your sick. Then year three hits and that number jumps to seven or eight times a year. As said above, sick if needed sounds like a nice perk, but aside from maybe your first year, I doubt it's needed all that much. Now, if for some stupid reason we decided to give a concession and switch to a sick leave program like everyone else, then I'd be on team sick if needed. Even the GFB complaints are severely overblown. Do I think it's dumb, sure, but do I think it's a big deal, not at all. Online Dr note and your golden with a fully verified sick leave where you're free to take as much time to recover as you need. Aside from CXT, they're an extremely rare event anyway.

If we tidy up everything else in the contract that impacts nearly everyone all the time, then sure, blow some capital on trying to get rid of something they may never happen to most of the pilot group.

Don’t forget that reserves can get a “free” day when they call in well before 0600. So a 4 day block can be taken out with only ~13.5 hours of sick time if you call in well early on day 4.

Yup, that is accounted for in my numbers.

I actually have had a VERY helpful ACP work with me this month when I got in ER for dehydration level sick and had some appointments with a hard to get into specialist that came up after bidding and the reserve grid didn't allow moving days. (I'm down to 15ish hours sick)

He emailed me a bunch of direct contacts to deal with insurance and actually knew the sick year transition stuff very well. Preposted sick, and can PD more days if needed to get me out of this sick year. Also "don't fly of not well, but you need to work at least one trip/RES day to reset if out sick when year swaps over"

Credit where credit is due. He's been very helpful.

There's also some odd math when you are sick on a PR day that I can't fully explain, but have seen. Like, if you have a PR ending at 1500 and swipe sick before it ends, you don't get charged ANY sick for the day with the PR. So for 4-day stretch that starts with a PR, if you're sick on day 1 and well before 0600 on day 4, you only get charged 2 LC days worth of sick.

Ive heard rumor some of the sick abuse cited by the company is swiping in just before 0600. Something something “it may be contractual but isn’t right” was apparently their opinion.