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GutterGuard 05-10-2026 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 4033977)
I had people call my cell phone, from an anonymous Google number and threaten to report me to the company for habitually lying on Social Media, and then said I am not of good moral character because of being a "habitual liar" therefore ineligible to hold an ATP.

Unfortunately the SM policy is so broad that, in theory anything I post, even simple as water is wet, sky is blue, can be a SM violation if someone interpreted it as one and pushed the issue with the company.

I have no question about it that I made some enemies in the Navy with a similar MO "Master is a liar" and then I'm having to prove my innocence.

I only answered the call because on race weekends I field a ton of calls, some of which are time critical. (Usually logistics related)

Not everyone was a cookie cutter path guy. Some of us have real world experience outside aviation.

I'm at a Supercross race in SLC. Back to watching the races. My guy got 6th in the 250s. 450 championship is down to who beats who tonight. 450 main on the gate.

Just FYI, the "good moral character" in 14 CFR 61.153(c) refers to the commission of felonies. If you read the 8900.1, an examiner is supposed to determine if you've been convicted of a felony. Not if you're a "habitual liar on social media."

Don't feed the trolls, brother.

Hotel Kilo 05-10-2026 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 4033914)
Whats a sabbatical? My smooth brain doesn’t understand big words. But yeah, I peruse still. I have avoided posting because I needed to touch grass more because of posters like you. You, however, do provide good input occasionally. But the hubris…dear god. That’s my big word. It means you really come across as arrogant. Read the hiring forums where Fangs is trying to tell the Spirit guy he needs to be humble. Maybe take his advice. Yeah, you may be smart and in a lot of meetings, but you aren’t superior to “99%” of us. Guys like you run guys like me off this forum. Ban me, block me. Whatever. This place was useful and now it’s either politics, kool-aid, or doom and gloom. No more pragmatic thinkers on here. It’s no better than chit chat. And I couldn’t tell a 737 wing from a 320 wing if it wasn’t for the scimitars.

I replied to that guy too. I've been here a long time. I was in the machine for some time - Ops, Hiring, fleet planning. I've got a very broad perspective and experience in this company that your average line person does not. I offer my insights and experiences. Nothing more.

I don't believe in mixing words, fluff or worrying about your feelings. I am blunt, on topic and to the point. Don't like it? Don't read it.

Hotel Kilo 05-10-2026 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 4033977)
I had people call my cell phone, from an anonymous Google number and threaten to report me to the company for habitually lying on Social Media, and then said I am not of good moral character because of being a "habitual liar" therefore ineligible to hold an ATP.

Unfortunately the SM policy is so broad that, in theory anything I post, even simple as water is wet, sky is blue, can be a SM violation if someone interpreted it as one and pushed the issue with the company.

I have no question about it that I made some enemies in the Navy with a similar MO "Master is a liar" and then I'm having to prove my innocence.

I only answered the call because on race weekends I field a ton of calls, some of which are time critical. (Usually logistics related)

Not everyone was a cookie cutter path guy. Some of us have real world experience outside aviation.

I'm at a Supercross race in SLC. Back to watching the races. My guy got 6th in the 250s. 450 championship is down to who beats who tonight. 450 main on the gate.

Wow, that's kind of creepy CX. As you know, I always enjoy what you have to share here, I sometimes don't agree with your positions, but that's life. Gutter covered the "good moral character" part and he is correct. Your SM postings here are not even breaking the squelch.


Originally Posted by OnceAlways (Post 4034072)
I'm not the one that called him a liar or castigated him earlier on in this thread. His love of self-promotion simply invites the criticism and I'm not surprised when people assume he's spinning some tall tales. He rarely misses an opportunity to tell everyone about himself, even if the connection to the topic is tenuous at best. He's not hurting anyone but it's strange and peculiar and mildly annoying.

It's totally possible to not be a hater but to also call a spade a spade, and since I don't know him personally like it seems many of his defenders here do, my perspective might be reliably more objective in how he's coming across than to those who are already in his fan club.


^^^ This right here ^^^ is what I'm talking about the monkey tribe. "I dont' like what you wirte or how you come across, you trigger me so YOU need to change how you write to make me fell better". Yeah, no. Don't like it? Use ignore feature here or just skip on by.


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CX don't let the angry ankle biting monkey tribe deter you. Nothing they can do to you or say that should sway you. If it gets crazy, the mods do a good job of regulating here. Press on my friend. We'd love to have you back here.

I'm going to agree with DBR, I kinda miss OOFFF as well. Never really agreed with them, but it was always a good argument. Whoever they are they are intelligent and post some deep stuff you kind of have to get your brain around. I like that.

ejpogo 05-10-2026 10:30 AM

It seems like there is a consensus that it is better to have umbrella insurance than hope for tort reform and maybe see a unicorn, too.

I use USAA and bundle my umbrella insurance with home and auto. I am worried I may be missing out on career specific umbrella insurance?? Does anyone have any recommendations or any experiences using umbrella insurance or how high of a limit per occurrence one should have as a pilot??

OnceAlways 05-10-2026 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 4034153)
^^^ This right here ^^^ is what I'm talking about the monkey tribe. "I dont' like what you wirte or how you come across, you trigger me so YOU need to change how you write to make me fell better". Yeah, no. Don't like it? Use ignore feature here or just skip on by.

No need to get emotional. CX presents himself the way he chooses to, and we are all free to determine what caliber of individual he is based on that.

CBreezy 05-10-2026 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by OnceAlways (Post 4034208)
No need to get emotional. CX presents himself the way he chooses to, and we are all free to determine what caliber of individual he is based on that.

You are absolutely free to not like him. There are plenty of personalities here I don't care for but would never support anyone harassing them, threatening to call the CPO or threatening to report you to the FAA. To effectively justify someone calling and harassing him or supporting the justification that he is not of good moral character because you don't like him is juvenile.

higney85 05-10-2026 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by ejpogo (Post 4034207)
It seems like there is a consensus that it is better to have umbrella insurance than hope for tort reform and maybe see a unicorn, too.

I use USAA and bundle my umbrella insurance with home and auto. I am worried I may be missing out on career specific umbrella insurance?? Does anyone have any recommendations or any experiences using umbrella insurance or how high of a limit per occurrence one should have as a pilot??

Delta carries insurance for accidents. It’s just a reality. View your umbrella as your assets (less qualified credit protected, such as your 401k) and have at least that much. If you have teenage drivers it should be mandatory. Normally not expensive or difficult to carry until you get over about $5M. Mine just renewed at about $1100/yr for $5M. You will need to ensure your home and auto coverage matches the policy requirements (meaning healthy amounts to start).

notEnuf 05-10-2026 11:21 AM

Following

<insert Micheal Jackson eating popcorn meme here>

Finally some real entertainment value on APC.

ancman 05-10-2026 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by OnceAlways (Post 4034072)
I'm not the one that called him a liar or castigated him earlier on in this thread. His love of self-promotion simply invites the criticism and I'm not surprised when people assume he's spinning some tall tales. He rarely misses an opportunity to tell everyone about himself, even if the connection to the topic is tenuous at best. He's not hurting anyone but it's strange and peculiar and mildly annoying.

That describes about half of all pilots in general. How do you get along with anyone at work?

CX’s stories are entertaining and often insightful — particularly his encounters with management. I’ve never met him either, but he’s a welcome change of pace around here.

Whoever threatened to report him to the FAA for “lacking moral character” is laughably vapid. At least research how 61.153(c) is actually interpreted first, followed by how rarely it’s ever been applied — even against pilots with felonies.

GutterGuard 05-10-2026 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 4034229)
Following

<insert Micheal Jackson eating popcorn meme here>

Finally some real entertainment value on APC.

Speaking of memes, where the heck is memeincommand?

All 5 Stages 05-10-2026 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by ejpogo (Post 4034207)
Does anyone have any recommendations or any experiences using umbrella insurance or how high of a limit per occurrence one should have as a pilot??

I think that dude just left APC for the time being.

A5S

sailingfun 05-11-2026 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by ejpogo (Post 4034207)
It seems like there is a consensus that it is better to have umbrella insurance than hope for tort reform and maybe see a unicorn, too.

I use USAA and bundle my umbrella insurance with home and auto. I am worried I may be missing out on career specific umbrella insurance?? Does anyone have any recommendations or any experiences using umbrella insurance or how high of a limit per occurrence one should have as a pilot??

There is no umbrella policy that a pilot can afford that’s going to help in the event of a major incident. One thing you can do is maintain your 401K assets within the current Fidelity program until you retire. Be careful moving them into other vehicles outside the current plan as you may loose the lawsuit shelter provided by federal law. Some states do protect IRA’s but it’s state specific so do your research.
Be aware that the biggest threat that I observed impacting pilots concerning lawsuits over the years is their children, especially when they turn 16 and start driving. A umbrella policy is an absolute necessity at that point and don’t carry them longer than needed on your policy and or register their cars in your name.

rickair7777 05-11-2026 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by OnceAlways (Post 4034072)
I'm not the one that called him a liar or castigated him earlier on in this thread. His love of self-promotion simply invites the criticism and I'm not surprised when people assume he's spinning some tall tales. He rarely misses an opportunity to tell everyone about himself, even if the connection to the topic is tenuous at best. He's not hurting anyone but it's strange and peculiar and mildly annoying.

It's totally possible to not be a hater but to also call a spade a spade, and since I don't know him personally like it seems many of his defenders here do, my perspective might be reliably more objective in how he's coming across than to those who are already in his fan club.

But you don't need to call any spades here.

There's rarely any reason to critique other users on this forum, in the case of actual misbehavior just report it.

If you want to debate someone's opinions, fine. If you just don't like them and don't want to deal with it, just ignore them. Or add them to your ignore list if you like.

rickair7777 05-11-2026 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 4034422)
Be aware that the biggest threat that I observed impacting pilots concerning lawsuits over the years is their children, especially when they turn 16 and start driving. A umbrella policy is an absolute necessity at that point and don’t carry them longer than needed on your policy and or register their cars in your name.

18th birthday ritual: Go to DMV and transfer car title, and signup for own USAA account.

GogglesPisano 05-11-2026 11:02 AM

If you have a dependent driver under 22 you're going to find it difficult to get more than a $1M umbrella.

You can remove them from your insurance, but then you're (they're) going to be paying more for auto. And in some cases this won't help your umbrella at all since they are still your dependent.

rickair7777 05-11-2026 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 4034576)
If you have a dependent driver under 22 you're going to find it difficult to get more than a $1M umbrella.

You can remove them from your insurance, but then you're (they're) going to be paying more for auto. And in some cases this won't help your umbrella at all since they are still your dependent.

Depends on state law.

Typically better to transfer the car and have them get their own insurance. But if they're living at home or financially dependent (college) in some jurisdictions you might still be liable. In that case, putting them on separate insurance would mean that your umbrella might not cover it, while you could still be liable. Might be better to keep them on your policy, under your umbrella.


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