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tomgoodman 05-27-2019 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2827026)
Beards will not seal tho amirite?

Of course you can get a seal with a beard! :D

https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...ilistpeter.jpg

N5139 05-27-2019 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2827026)
Beards will not seal tho amirite?


SFU study busts myth about facial hair on pilots - University Communications - Simon Fraser University

FL370esq 05-27-2019 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2827051)
Of course you can get a seal with a beard! :D

https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...ilistpeter.jpg

Wasn't he in Tin Cup standing next to Phil Mickelson betting David Sims that Roy McAvoy could make the shot? Or am I confusing him with the head of security for the law firm in Memphis that Tom Cruise and Gene Hackman worked for?

GogglesPisano 05-27-2019 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2827193)
Wasn't he in Tin Cup standing next to Phil Mickelson betting David Sims that Roy McAvoy could make the shot? Or am I confusing him with the head of security for the law firm in Memphis that Tom Cruise and Gene Hackman worked for?

He says “Dia-Beetus.”

FL370esq 05-27-2019 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2827251)
He says “Dia-Beetus.”

Quite similar to the "Die-ya-bah-tees" diagnosis by Dr. Spah-chem-in on 30 Rock, right?? 😁

Cosa Nostra 05-27-2019 05:15 PM

I wish we could rock beards.

Buck Rogers 05-28-2019 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 2826981)
I've been wondering when someone will press to test this one. On religious grounds of course, which would then knock over the whole 'no beards' house of cards. I mean, look at those reckless KLM and Lufthansa pilots... what do they know about aviation?

Or, a little closer to home....how about Alaska?

Bluto 05-28-2019 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2827026)
Beards will not seal tho amirite?

According to the mask manufacturer's lawyer? Yeah, you're right. According to real life?... I volunteer as tribute to test it in a high altitude sim.

badflaps 05-28-2019 12:34 PM

Unfortunate, the main beard guys have hair coverage that looks like a golf practice tee.:D

Buck Rogers 05-28-2019 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 2827732)
According to the mask manufacturer's lawyer? Yeah, you're right. According to real life?... I volunteer as tribute to test it in a high altitude sim.


From the internet...


Until last year, Air Canada and several other airlines required pilots to have a clean-shaven face. Air Canada reasoned that in the case of in-flight emergency, a clean-shaven face was necessary to ensure a proper seal on an oral-nasal face mask.

In fall 2016, however, the airline retained Sherri Ferguson, director of SFU's Environmental Medicine and Physiology Unit, and her team to research the efficacy of face masks on different beard lengths.

"We had two objectives," says Ferguson. "First, we had to determine if present-day equipment used in the Canadian commercial airline industry delivers sufficient oxygen to protect a bearded pilot from hypoxia during an emergency cabin depressurization scenario."

Hypoxia occurs when the body does not receive enough oxygen and can cause damage to the brain and other organs minutes after symptoms appear and render a pilot incapacitated or unconscious.

"Secondly, we had to find out whether the mask provides sufficient protection against carbon monoxide and toxic fumes should the cabin become smoke-filled from fire."

The researchers divided research participants into three groups: those with a small amount of facial hair such as stubble (less than 0.5 cm in length), those with medium sized-beards and those with long beards (up to 40 cm).

Wearing masks supplied by Air Canada, the participants were put into a hypobaric chamber, which simulated altitudes from 10,000 to 25,000 ft above sea level. The researchers measured the participants' oxygen saturation levels at every altitude change, because a drop in the oxygen saturation levels would indicate the masks are leaky and unable to maintain a proper seal.

For the second test, the researchers used stannic chloride, which causes watery eyes as well as a burning sensation in the lungs, in order to create conditions similar to fire smoke.

The researchers found no adverse effects on bearded subjects within the two parameters of the study, and that the masks maintained protection, irrespective of varying amounts of facial hair.

The study provided the basis for Air Canada to change its facial hair policy for aircrew and now permits a maximum length of 1.25 cm and neatly trimmed


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