Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1998171)

The deliveries are 15 per year over 3 years. There has been a substantial change in the overall fleet plan since last spring. If you have Delta net there is a discussion about it under the SEA roadshows. The shift of DCI block hours to the mainline is coming to a end this winter. With the TA it was planned to continue that migration which would have required more pilots. The Skywest E175 order is the start of managements plan B.
The good news is even without the additional block hours hiring should be strong.

Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1998404)

You are such a crybaby.

New hires don't listen to sailings dribble. He fills all his responses with a back tone of IF we had signed the TA WE would do the flying. Now look at this! the regionals are doing it now blah blah blah. Then brings up he is just stating facts. Nothing the company is doing will violate our scope and will be no different than when we get our new contract versus the last crap TA as far as planes we fly and the planes the regional fly.

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1998210)

Management is threatening to continue to shift flying to the mainline and park airplanes unless the pilots take concessions.

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1998210)

Yet, talking with a good friend who is currently engaged in negotiations at a DCI carrier reveals that Delta Management is threatening to continue to shift flying to the mainline and park airplanes unless the pilots take concessions. It's almost like they don't even think pilot groups talk to each other.

Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1998456)

It's BEEN going back.

But the most comical part is, the legacies are making more money than ever. Yet the legacies are putting pressure on the regionals to get the cost down EVEN FURTHER. After leveraging it lower and lower during the BKS's.

Originally Posted by FMGEC (Post 1998458)

This is the definition on why DPA is going to happen- ALPA is fighting to keep more regional jets at the expense of less mainline flying. Should be the other way around.

Keep as much flying in the higher-wage/benefits airline and shrink the flying at the low-wage locations. Everyone benefits when that happens.

Originally Posted by Falcon20 (Post 1998028)

You would be correct. I believe the summary since June goes like this:

It's the normal summer slowdown it will pick up in Spetember.

There is construction at the training center it will pick up late fall.

Those darn contractual obligations with Compass and Endeavor will end soon then it will pick up.

It's the holidays that are slowing training which is normal.

So that is why there is an 8 month swim in the pool. :mad:
If you don't like it go to a different company unless you haven't been called to interview or you've received a TBNT email. (TIC)

Good luck out there swimmers. Seriously though if anyone knows if the training pipeline is opening up for the new hires like AK said would happen after the training center construction was finished please let us know.

Originally Posted by Twister (Post 1998508)

Ha! Ha! Very funny!



Seriously, though.....does anyone know of a poolie treading water for 8 months between CJO and starting indoc? That would suck....



6 months, I think I can handle. 8 months....well, at least I wouldn't feel guilty about getting another job and then having to walk away when indoc finally starts. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1998171)

The deliveries are 15 per year over 3 years. There has been a substantial change in the overall fleet plan since last spring. If you have Delta net there is a discussion about it under the SEA roadshows. The shift of DCI block hours to the mainline is coming to a end this winter. With the TA it was planned to continue that migration which would have required more pilots. The Skywest E175 order is the start of managements plan B.
The good news is even without the additional block hours hiring should be strong.

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1998210)

Yet, talking with a good friend who is currently engaged in negotiations at a DCI carrier reveals that Delta Management is threatening to continue to shift flying to the mainline and park airplanes unless the pilots take concessions. It's almost like they don't even think pilot groups talk to each other.

Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1998404)

You are such a crybaby.

New hires don't listen to sailings dribble. He fills all his responses with a back tone of IF we had signed the TA WE would do the flying. Now look at this! the regionals are doing it now blah blah blah. Then brings up he is just stating facts. Nothing the company is doing will violate our scope and will be no different than when we get our new contract versus the last crap TA as far as planes we fly and the planes the regional fly.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1998408)

Your right, 70 to 90 E190's would have meant nothing for pilot hiring. Crew resources need to hire additional bodies ASAP for the narrow body FO seats was all BS. They don't know anything! They thought they would have to prime the pump now to handle the rapid deliveries. How stupid was that!
Funny how you and others made all the same statements about contract 2012 and pilot hiring. How did that turn out?

Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1998456)

It's BEEN going back.

But the most comical part is, the legacies are making more money than ever. Yet the legacies are putting pressure on the regionals to get the cost down EVEN FURTHER. After leveraging it lower and lower during the BKS's.

Originally Posted by FMGEC (Post 1998458)

This is the definition on why DPA is going to happen- ALPA is fighting to keep more regional jets at the expense of less mainline flying. Should be the other way around.

Keep as much flying in the higher-wage/benefits airline and shrink the flying at the low-wage locations. Everyone benefits when that happens.