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Carl Spackler 06-15-2015 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1906185)
Well stated! Can't wait for part 2.

I agree but Ryan is going to be character assassinated for this. He's going to need emails and calls from CVG pilots that will stand strongly behind him against the certain recall attempts.

Carl

ERflyer 06-15-2015 05:58 PM

Good analysis.

I also thought the same thing about 1E9. Why give one person so much power? Why wouldn't it be voted on by the entire MEC? Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

CVG767A 06-15-2015 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1906195)
I agree but Ryan is going to be character assassinated for this. He's going to need emails and calls from CVG pilots that will stand strongly behind him against the certain recall attempts.

Carl

He certainly has my support.

Carl Spackler 06-15-2015 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1906221)
He certainly has my support.

That is great to hear. If you feel like sharing your thoughts, are you a YES or NO on this?

Carl

forgot to bid 06-15-2015 06:26 PM

Wrong thread. freaking so many of them now. makes me proud though.

MoonShot 06-15-2015 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1906195)
I agree but Ryan is going to be character assassinated for this. He's going to need emails and calls from CVG pilots that will stand strongly behind him against the certain recall attempts.

Carl

I was CVG based on and off for 4 years. Although I've never met Ryan, he has my support.

CVG767A 06-16-2015 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1906227)
That is great to hear. If you feel like sharing your thoughts, are you a YES or NO on this?

Carl

I'm an absolute NO on this one. I voted yes on C2012; it had lower pay increases than I wanted, but it fixed several other issues (notably sick leave). I figured that the short duration of the contract would position us well for this negotiation.

Well, here we are, in a time of record profits, being asked to approve a contract that is, in my opinion, concessionary! The raise is, once again, smaller than expected, but more significantly, we are making significant concessions in profit sharing, scope, and sick leave.

In my correspondence with my reps (except for Ryan), the response seems to be that while this TA might be underwhelming, the alternative would be a drawn out mediation. WHO CARES?!? I'd rather live under C2012 than C2015.

dalad 06-16-2015 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1906356)
I'm an absolute NO on this one. I voted yes on C2012; it had lower pay increases than I wanted, but it fixed several other issues (notably sick leave). I figured that the short duration of the contract would position us well for this negotiation.

Well, here we are, in a time of record profits, being asked to approve a contract that is, in my opinion, concessionary! The raise is, once again, smaller than expected, but more significantly, we are making significant concessions in profit sharing, scope, and sick leave.

In my correspondence with my reps (except for Ryan), the response seems to be that while this TA might be underwhelming, the alternative would be a drawn out mediation. WHO CARES?!? I'd rather live under C2012 than C2015.

I also voted yes on C2012 for the same reason(s). i was pretty sure the company would be much better off with the debt payoffs, etc. So now they give us this!

iceman49 06-16-2015 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Take Em (Post 1906163)
Can we copy this and leave it in every airplane, crew room, bathroom, employee bus...? Seriously most people I speak with say NO, but we all know there is a going to be a huge number of yes men who are only looking at the measly pay bumps. Again the seniors will eat their youth and forget about how they ended up where they are now.

Some will, some won't...don't make this into a seniority fight! Concentrate on the facts.

Hoser 06-16-2015 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1906356)
In my correspondence with my reps (except for Ryan), the response seems to be that while this TA might be underwhelming, the alternative would be a drawn out mediation. WHO CARES?!? I'd rather live under C2012 than C2015.

Bingo! Outsider here but this should be stressed to your pilots. Why vote for this when your current agreement is better IMO. Best of luck, I hope ya'll vote it down with a big percentage.


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