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07-01-2015 | 03:18 AM
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Of course PPT is your sick time also. That is the point of it.
49 hours a year is way more than I've needed over the last 24 years. If I could bank that I'd have over a thousand hours by now, potentially.
Airline sick banks vary, from 60 to 90 hours a year. Bank limits seem to be around 1000 to 1300 hours. Maybe PPT would be less than that since it is paid time off for anything, not just sick.
Still, our FAs get 49 hrs a year. We can do better than that. It has merit IMO.
49 hours a year is way more than I've needed over the last 24 years. If I could bank that I'd have over a thousand hours by now, potentially.
Airline sick banks vary, from 60 to 90 hours a year. Bank limits seem to be around 1000 to 1300 hours. Maybe PPT would be less than that since it is paid time off for anything, not just sick.
Still, our FAs get 49 hrs a year. We can do better than that. It has merit IMO.
It sounds like you really don't want to negotiate PPT like the flight attendants. You want a very different program. If we got a hundred hours of PPT and could bank it with no limits or caps I would go for that. You would however have to get the company to go for the program and restructure funding on the disability side.
That type of program has a lot of down side also. Major sick events or accidents can wipe out a 20 year bank.
07-01-2015 | 03:57 AM
#12
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IMO, any program that has an incentive (allowing a portion of unused sick time to be put into a "bank") has the potential to motivate sick pilots to come to work.
Sometimes we need to be protected from each other....
Sometimes we need to be protected from each other....
07-01-2015 | 06:14 AM
#13
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From: A330 First Officer
This is absolutely correct. I worked for a company on furlough that had a policy that you got a bonus each quarter you did not call in sick and then an annual bonus if you went the whole year not calling in sick. Of course now you had guys on their deathbeds crawling into the cockpit so they didn't screw up their bonus.
07-01-2015 | 12:04 PM
#14
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From: fifi flyer
As I mentioned they are not allowed to bank it other then a limited amount with a cap.
It sounds like you really don't want to negotiate PPT like the flight attendants. You want a very different program. If we got a hundred hours of PPT and could bank it with no limits or caps I would go for that. You would however have to get the company to go for the program and restructure funding on the disability side.
That type of program has a lot of down side also. Major sick events or accidents can wipe out a 20 year bank.
It sounds like you really don't want to negotiate PPT like the flight attendants. You want a very different program. If we got a hundred hours of PPT and could bank it with no limits or caps I would go for that. You would however have to get the company to go for the program and restructure funding on the disability side.
That type of program has a lot of down side also. Major sick events or accidents can wipe out a 20 year bank.
I prefer a PPT system with as much PPT as possible is all I'm saying. But probably saying it prematurely. Its not July 11th yet.
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