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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 1971430)

2. It previously was a non issue because we were ahead if the UA and AA pilot rates and the average was below our rates at the time. As of 4/1/2015 we were below the industry average rates by .55% with the new AA deal. On 1/1/2016 we will be 3% below that average. The direct answer to your question is yes. It already has which is the precedent going forward.

But that is a predicament for Rocky.

We know what it was designed to do, but Rocky, to guilt no voters for turning TA2015 down, is arguing it won't achieve what ALPA wrote it to do and you should have voted yes. Which means ALPA failed, but, trust ALPA.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1971437)

I think we soon will have an MEC that is willing to fight for "restoration", our new MEC chairman's word. Oops not quite yet, 2 hours to go, congratulations Capt. Malone.

There are plenty of grass roots operatives ready to ensure his objective is supported, if he is stifled in his pursuits, we will have another internal struggle to deal with. 65% of the pilots voted against the TA, we will see if Delta wants to poison the waters by denying us a contractual raise during our negotiations. What's 3% to them now?

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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 1971451)

If you want to break the pilots you create goodwill and only throw one portion of the group under the bus to pay for gains.

If you want to unify the pilot group, pull a Donatelli/NC/ALPA/EB and try and throw everyone under the bus and then yell at them.

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Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 1971379)

I don't follow this.

If there's a raise given within a consecutive 18 month period, a review is triggered. Having a review done in April does not preclude another review done in (say) December. As of the April review (and the resultant .55% raise), the 18 month clock got reset. If 30% or more of the non-pilot, US-based employee groups get a raise(s) within 18 months (whether that happens in December in one shot, or, say, 15% get a raise in Dec and another 15% get a raise in Feb), that will trigger a review.

What am I missing?

My guess is that they give a sizable raise to the other employees before the end of the year to avoid giving one in 2016. The review is triggered as you say. It will look at the lesser of the raise or the difference in the UAL/AAL metric. Since that latter difference is now "zero" as a result of the April increase, we would be awarded a pay increase of--"zero."

But maybe I'm wrong, and they hold off till next year which could trigger a raise for us. Time will tell.

Haven't sent it yet and I am going to read everyone's email one more time, but right now I'm thinking my ballot will look like this.
Capts Jonathon Taylor and Don Moore.

FOs Jimmy Johnson and Thad Kyle