RA on Dueling PS Plans and E-190's
10-14-2015 | 09:39 AM
#11
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And that's the problem. The pay table says E190/195 and you have established a rate for an airplane that could replace 88s, 319s, 737s and it pays less than all.
10-14-2015 | 09:41 AM
#12
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I agree, I don't think the company wants the rates that low at mainline.
10-14-2015 | 05:59 PM
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10-14-2015 | 06:53 PM
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Because delta doesn't want relative new hires in the left seat flying with new hires in the right seat. Even though they did it with delta express, it required, quite likely, the most stringent standardization program Delta has ever had. So, to be blunt, delta would like their captains to have more time on property...even though some of the new hires have a bunch of capt time in the e-jet.
Jmo.
Jmo.
10-14-2015 | 06:56 PM
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Because delta doesn't want relative new hires in the left seat flying with new hires in the right seat. Even though they did it with delta express, it required, quite likely, the most stringent standardization program Delta has ever had. So, to be blunt, delta would like their captains to have more time on property...even though some of the new hires have a bunch of capt time in the e-jet.
Jmo.
Jmo.
Get ready to duck!
10-14-2015 | 07:17 PM
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Because delta doesn't want relative new hires in the left seat flying with new hires in the right seat. Even though they did it with delta express, it required, quite likely, the most stringent standardization program Delta has ever had. So, to be blunt, delta would like their captains to have more time on property...even though some of the new hires have a bunch of capt time in the e-jet.
Jmo.
Jmo.
Um... never mind.
If they bring their old airplanes with them it would be one big fleet back under the mainline banner. Take back scope, rates would be secondary for everyone on property right now.
10-14-2015 | 07:30 PM
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If "sick leave in line with our competitors is the goal" then that would imply that current sick leave use is in fact NOT in line with our competitors. Therefore abuse cannot be a "red herring" and is in fact a statistical outlier compared to other carriers.
Am I missing something? (I am not necessarily stating that sick leave abuse is rampant and a huge problem, only highlighting your own apparent doublespeak; perhaps I read too much into your statement).
p.s. Of course it could also be argued that we are the only carrier where pilots don't fly sick because we have no need to try to hoard unused sick time.
Am I missing something? (I am not necessarily stating that sick leave abuse is rampant and a huge problem, only highlighting your own apparent doublespeak; perhaps I read too much into your statement).
p.s. Of course it could also be argued that we are the only carrier where pilots don't fly sick because we have no need to try to hoard unused sick time.
So any 'industry average' comparison to our 'use it or lose it' is apples to oranges. His words, not mine. I just agreed with him. He was frustrated because he's supposed to be the Sick Leave Police, when in fact, nobody was 'abusing' it, they were just using it.
It's a benefit in our contract, just like vacation.
Do you use all your vacation? Are you a Vacation Abuser?
10-14-2015 | 07:37 PM
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It has nothing to do with previous experience or anything lacking. Not all new hires are created equally. Plus it's not my decision anyway.
I have always, always been a scope recapture guy. I want delta pilots to fly everything under the delta brand.
If some weasel wants to make it some mil vs civ thing or north vs south or green vs blue, that's on him.
10-14-2015 | 08:06 PM
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Because delta doesn't want relative new hires in the left seat flying with new hires in the right seat. Even though they did it with delta express, it required, quite likely, the most stringent standardization program Delta has ever had. So, to be blunt, delta would like their captains to have more time on property...even though some of the new hires have a bunch of capt time in the e-jet.
Jmo.
Jmo.
It was only the bottom 3 Captains on Express, but still, you had 3 guys who had NEVER flown as a Delta copilot, (they were 727/L10-11 engineers when furloughed) who were recalled to Express 737 Captain in MCO.
Pair that up with a new hire, things can get pretty funny, pretty fast!
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