RA on Dueling PS Plans and E-190's
10-17-2015 | 04:41 PM
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The ratios are way too low. Want proof, isn't all the flying we're doing now because of C2012? All these 717s? So, I take it we're barely just keeping up with the minimum, right? Because if we are far exceeding the minimum then what good was the ratio for requiring growth?
10-17-2015 | 04:49 PM
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Sink, as to the aircraft, nobody is crying over a loss of used E190s and 739s in exchange for 3 big concessions. I don't believe the company requires concessions from the mechanics to buy tools and flight attendants to buy used galley carts, but for some reason we buy into we need to give up something to get the company to buy jets that the company says it needs. Buying assets whether as replacement or growth is a normal business function and completely affordable for a company making $6B a year in profit.
That should have been a nonstarter with the NC, not a "that's a great idea" means to get a TA passed early.
Again don't blame the company for trying, blame the former union leadership for signing off on it and promoting it and threatening repercussions over it.
That should have been a nonstarter with the NC, not a "that's a great idea" means to get a TA passed early.
Again don't blame the company for trying, blame the former union leadership for signing off on it and promoting it and threatening repercussions over it.
10-18-2015 | 03:48 AM
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Now some heads will pop around here at the notion of the 190 replacing the 88 because any 88 replacement is going to have to be equal in size they would say. But I looked on my icrew max and counted the turns I do out of ATL and saw out of 62 of them, 22 were new 717 flying, the rest were 88 destinations. Many of those 88 destinations were full just about every time. The 717 comes in about 26% smaller, what's to stop them from using something 34% smaller?
It did not get the updated cockpit
The E-Jets can fly at least x2 at the same cost
The 88 is approaching 30 years old
Management is always talking about how long it will be around <-- That being the dead giveaway.
10-18-2015 | 03:50 AM
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Sink, as to the aircraft, nobody is crying over a loss of used E190s and 739s in exchange for 3 big concessions. I don't believe the company requires concessions from the mechanics to buy tools and flight attendants to buy used galley carts, but for some reason we buy into we need to give up something to get the company to buy jets that the company says it needs. Buying assets whether as replacement or growth is a normal business function and completely affordable for a company making $6B a year in profit.
10-18-2015 | 04:43 AM
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Whether the increasing ratio protected 737 growth, or simply took the surplus out of the current ratio, the effect was to protect more mainline flying.
10-18-2015 | 09:24 AM
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Please recall we have a scope section. In the case of the E190, it drove an increasing Mainline domestic to DCI block hour ratio which was nearly twice what an E190 could fly. In fact, that ratio for 50 E190's equalled 40 737-900 (because of the 737's higher - fly all night - utilization).
Whether the increasing ratio protected 737 growth, or simply took the surplus out of the current ratio, the effect was to protect more mainline flying.
Whether the increasing ratio protected 737 growth, or simply took the surplus out of the current ratio, the effect was to protect more mainline flying.
10-18-2015 | 10:13 AM
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10-18-2015 | 01:13 PM
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Canceled orders?
Guys,
No aircraft orders have been canceled. Mr. Anderson said that they "would" be cancelled, and they might very well get cancelled but until we eventually reach a deal no one knows how this will turn out.
The orders could be cancelled forever. They could be cancelled and re-ordered with TA-2. Maybe they will not be cancelled.
To all the Pilots who are fretting about cancelled aircraft orders I would counsel you to relax.............. things change.
Mr. Anderson did say the orders "will" be cancelled but so what? He also said he did not come to Delta to oversee a merger, guess what? We merged nonetheless. Things change.
Scoop - Just my 2 cents
No aircraft orders have been canceled. Mr. Anderson said that they "would" be cancelled, and they might very well get cancelled but until we eventually reach a deal no one knows how this will turn out.
The orders could be cancelled forever. They could be cancelled and re-ordered with TA-2. Maybe they will not be cancelled.
To all the Pilots who are fretting about cancelled aircraft orders I would counsel you to relax.............. things change.
Mr. Anderson did say the orders "will" be cancelled but so what? He also said he did not come to Delta to oversee a merger, guess what? We merged nonetheless. Things change.
Scoop - Just my 2 cents
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10-18-2015 | 02:48 PM
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That's all about the FAs organization drive. Say you are changing the seat configuration for flight attendants and buy some goodwill after the pay raise. On CNBC Richard Anderson said it was a seat pitch improvement for product enhancement that had added more room to the galley.
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