gettinbumped

As a UAL Bubba (not the IAH kind...) I'm pulling hard for you guys; even more so than normal with our snap up.

I find this a curious thing, this negotiating in public. I thought it was very strange when the union made public your "opener", or was that just an accidental leak? Either way, I'm not used to seeing a public back and forth of positions posted for the world to see. Is this a new strategy, or something that has been status quo at DAL?

Seriously not trying to pick a fight, I just hadn't seen this method before so didn't know if this was standard practice.

Either way, knock it out of the park!!! You guys/gals deserve it with the operation you have over there

Denny Crane

It's not the normal way, but with what happened this last summer, our pilot group is demanding transparency and communication from the union and soon to be new Reps. This is the result. Not saying it's good or bad, that has yet to be determined. I don't think it's going to continue with each and every negotiation meeting. I think when the NMB gets involved in March, we will see more "old school."

Denny

TenYearsGone

Thank you!!! I just wished you guys knocked it out of the park. Now I guess the ball is in our court again. Lets see what we can do.

TEN

Maddogflier

The NMB usually puts a gag order in effect. We will file in March but I doubt the NMB will get seriously involved until next winter. They have a big backlog. The company and union can continue negotiations awaiting the NMB even after we file.

notEnuf

Exactly. The mediator will demand confidentiality to calm the process.

DALFA

I sure hope referring to the other employees as "the help" is not seen as an acceptable definition of other Delta employees by the vast majority of Delta pilots.

Oops...was that your crew meal on the lav floor? 5 second rule...

DALFA

As a non-contract employee at Delta I actually have to agree with you. While it would be nice to have the support of DALPA in trying to organize...you can't really help us if we can't help ourselves. Besides, too many flight attendants are too worried about who they're going to meet off of Grindr on their layover, how much popcorn the company puts in the lounge, or how many scarfs they're going to buy at the market in IST. I'd say 60-70% of flight attendants actually think they're getting a 14.5% raise. And 90% don't know how much of a difference the change to the PS formula has.

Seaslap8

Haven't had a chance to exam it yet...could you expound on where they lied?

scambo1

I would bet money that chart was built for management by our former strategic planning chairman. Probably for free.

ghilis101

Mike, Delta loves to make us look like the bad guys in front of the noncons. This is nothing new. One, it helps keep unions off property even at the cost of driving FA wages to $80+k/yr, something rather amazing considering you need only a GED and no prior skillset to get the job. Two, they like to minimize the importance of the pilot profession. They want to make it seem like they weild the same power as a pilot to keep them happy.

Im not concerned about these games they play because its expected. The problem of an FA union drive will resurface with the next round of profit sharing in 2017, and the company will have to decide if they want to keep throwing money at them, and trigger our 3b4. The noncons already know how much money we make and most of them who actually understand what we do and how long it took us to get here dont view us as overpaid.