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Check Essential 03-14-2016 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 2088904)
The front line employee raises to their rates equates to about 3.5 years worth of historical rate increases.

Welcome back acl !!

What's done is done. Its a new day.

We could really use your help getting this new contract. I hope you'll join us.

Very few people have the depth of knowledge and recent experience that you possess when it comes to this whole process.
Unfortunately some of those people are choosing not to support the new MEC.

We are where we are. I am looking forward to hearing your perspective on how best to move on from here.

notEnuf 03-14-2016 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 2088921)
Welcome back acl !!

What's done is done. Its a new day.

We could really use your help getting this new contract. I hope you'll join us.

Given his actions, not likely.

I will be curious to see how he posts though and I'll be looking to see if he has an orange lanyard around his neck.

Check Essential 03-14-2016 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2088922)
Given his actions, not likely.

I will be curious to see how he posts though and I'll be looking to see if he has an orange lanyard around his neck.

Unlike Curly and some of the other bitter bomb throwers, acl is pretty young.
He has a long time left at Delta.

I'm optimistic that his approach to the future will be different than theirs.

notEnuf 03-14-2016 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 2088930)
Unlike Curly and some of the other bitter bomb throwers, acl is pretty young.
He has a long time left at Delta.

I'm optimistic that his approach to the future will be different than theirs.

I had hope for him as a next generation leader but he turned pretty quickly. Only time will tell but he no longer has my support.

Fool me once...

Check Essential 03-14-2016 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by notenuf (Post 2088931)
. Only time will tell...

+1

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acl65pilot 03-14-2016 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2088922)
Given his actions, not likely.

I will be curious to see how he posts though and I'll be looking to see if he has an orange lanyard around his neck.

There's plenty of people that can bear witness to that.

Not sure what actions you refer to, and everyone has their own opinions. I am happy to explain my votes to anyone and the rationale that went behind them. Noting was ever flippant nor without extensive analysis. Never made a vote without a ton of research on alternate options either. Check knows me, and we have topically discussed much of this.

notEnuf 03-14-2016 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 2088940)
There's plenty of people that can bear witness to that.

Not sure what actions you refer to, and everyone has their own opinions. I am happy to explain my votes to anyone and the rationale that went behind them. Noting was ever flippant nor without extensive analysis. Never made a vote without a ton of research on alternate options either. Check knows me, and we have topically discussed much of this.

I can only speak for myself and that is what I am doing. Good luck with whatever future endeavors you seek. I don't think any benefit will come of this discussion so I will leave it as is.

I am curious though, do you wear your orange ALPA lanyard? Reading it directly and then observing it might give hope.

80ktsClamp 03-14-2016 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 2088940)
There's plenty of people that can bear witness to that.

Not sure what actions you refer to, and everyone has their own opinions. I am happy to explain my votes to anyone and the rationale that went behind them. Noting was ever flippant nor without extensive analysis. Never made a vote without a ton of research on alternate options either. Check knows me, and we have topically discussed much of this.


Welcome back!

Purple Drank 03-14-2016 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 2088904)
The front line employee raises to their rates equates to about 3.5 years worth of historical rate increases.

Are you getting a job at ALPA national?

acl65pilot 03-14-2016 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2088953)
I can only speak for myself and that is what I am doing. Good luck with whatever future endeavors you seek. I don't think any benefit will come of this discussion so I will leave it as is.

I am curious though, do you wear your orange ALPA lanyard? Reading it directly and then observing it might give hope.

Yes, I am wearing it. I want this MEC successful, we all work under the same contract. I voted no in 2012 and frankly do not want to work under it as some people do. Many of the one off fixes that were part of the TA were items that I wanted fixed in 2012.

I compel you to give me a call. My number is in DBMS. I will talk on any issue as long as you like. I will answer the questions as fully as I can. Perception or the assigning of motives in the forum world are often not what drives ones decisions, and are almost always false.


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