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Originally Posted by WhatNow
(Post 2133433)
You are omitting the fact that the single greatest quality of life item is the pay rates. I worked the hardest I ever worked at Delta the first year out of chapter 11 to make ends meet. Virtually every pilot I know had to do the same. With each successive raise in rates I have worked less and less. My W2 has been virtually the same for the last 5 years. My days worked has dropped dramatically.
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Originally Posted by WhatNow
(Post 2133433)
You are omitting the fact that the single greatest quality of life item is the pay rates. I worked the hardest I ever worked at Delta the first year out of chapter 11 to make ends meet. Virtually every pilot I know had to do the same. With each successive raise in rates I have worked less and less. My W2 has been virtually the same for the last 5 years. My days worked has dropped dramatically.
That group did a service during bankruptcy. Moak held strong and called for a strike vote to set a wall on the companies deep takes. That was entirely appropriate then because it was a matter of survival and limiting damages. There was only one real choice to cooperate, for the survival of the company. The problem was to take that policy and to continue it beyond its useful time. We are now in equally unprecedented times but to our advantage and a polar opposite from bankruptcy. To allow this situation to pass without an equally strong stand would be a shame. Promises were made for our recovery in the form of profit sharing, which is all that remains to reclaim retirements and lost wages. Returning to pilots pay rates independently of concessions is appropriate and overdue. The future of this corporation and the industry is very different from its past. It's time to look forward. The "we used to..." is over. Ed Bastian is a board member on 4 other airline boards, that should tell you all you need to know. |
[QUOTE=WhatNow;2133431]We never lost our trip rig. It's been 1 for 3.5 for the last 30 years.
Ok but we had other rigs also that I thought changed. I just don't remember flying the 3 day 10.5 trips on C2000 but If you were flying them then they must have been here. Scoop |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 2133439)
Everyone's situation is different. My W2 is absolutely not a QOL for me, and I'd take the current rates for the rest of my career if it meant significantly better time off, ability to drop, training credit and improved scope. My pre-Delta career put my family's retirement in good shape and my wife has great part time income. We know many families whose W2s double ours - they are no happier and they long to have our time off with family. To each their own, but I'm certainly not omitting anything.
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Originally Posted by WhatNow
(Post 2133453)
If we get a large raise you can simply drop more flying and work less.
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Originally Posted by WhatNow
(Post 2133453)
If we get a large raise you can simply drop more flying and work less.
That statement is hilarious given your other statements about staffing. Some times you make the board really entertaining. |
Originally Posted by MOTOJOE
(Post 2133384)
I'm with ya! I want a 72hr max month with better pay. All I heard from our last Union reps was, " you can fly 90hr months for more pay" who wants that? Maybe guys with no outside life from flying at delta.
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Originally Posted by WhatNow
(Post 2133453)
If we get a large raise you can simply drop more flying and work less.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 2133459)
There is not a thing in the world preventing you from flying 72 hours/month right now. Nothing.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 2133459)
There is not a thing in the world preventing you from flying 72 hours/month right now. Nothing.
We are living it every day. Do you really think your statement has any value? |
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